- From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:50:46 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
Here's roughly what we are thinking of sending in for the AC review on the topic of simple syntax, your comments appreciated. If this is unnecessary, please let me know as well. The Charter for the WSD Working Group says that simplicity is a goal for WSDL [1]. We have observed [2] that a bare minimum operational WSD requires 25 WSD constructs, excluding the schema for the message. In our message, we made 3 orthogonal proposals. We thought that any of them either single or in combination might be useful to simplify the authoring of WSD. We do not as a rule make suggestions of the form "please change X" without also proposing at least one solution, aka "be part of the solution not part of the problem", hence our proposals. We are extremely open to discussing our proposals (though we are quite fond of the inline syntax proposal and default value proposals) or other solutions, but in the context that we are concerned that WSD 2.0 may not meet an 80/20 case for a WSD author. There has been some discussion in the WG of comparing different solutions for a simpler or 80/20 syntax, ie [3]. However, others, ie [4], have argued that a simple syntax is out of scope for the WG as the charter is written. As such, we would like the charter to be clearer that developing a simple syntax is in scope for the WG. We are expressly concerned that "waiting" for a simple syntax may make it impossible to develop such a syntax. Imagine if XPath did not have the "/" operator.... As the charter has left this point seemingly underspecified, we request that the language be tightened up. We suggest something along the lines of "The WG is encouraged to provide a simple syntax", or "The WG shall use it's discretion to determine the feasibility of specifying syntax that may simplify or subset the WSD functionality." This way the WG can decide, based upon it's schedule, availability of resources, etc. whether or not to undertake this work. I also suggest that if other AC members believe that the WSD WG MUST or SHOULD provide a simpler syntax, then they may want to indicate that earlier than a Last Call review. Cheers, Dave [1] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/ws-desc-charter.html#simplicity [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0071.html [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0105.html [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0092.html
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