- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:35:21 -0700
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0000.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Don Mullen (fallbacks: Sandeep Kumar, Prasad Yendluri,
Dietmar Gaertner, Kevin Liu, Roberto Chinnici,
Umit Yalcinalp, Jeff Mischkinsky, Sanjiva Weerawarana,
Youenn Fablet, William Vambenepe)
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2. Approval of minutes:
- July 24 telcon [.1].
- July FTF [.2, .3, .4] and summary [.5]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0139.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0010.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0011.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0012.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0013.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
with part information.
? 2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding binary
data types in schema
? 2003-05-13: DaveO to send a motivating example for R131.
DONE [.2] 2003-07-24: David Booth will prepare registration page for
Sept F2F.
DONE [.3] 2003-07-24: David Booth will pose questions to Anne about
URI vs QName.
? 2003-07-30: Amy to generate proposal for fault rules.
DONE [.4] 2003-07-30: Editors to incorporate the first three Patterns
TF recommendations into the draft.
? 2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the
HTTP binding.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34650/ws0309/
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0136.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0002.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Sept FTF logistics [.1]. Registration [.2] closes Sept 7th!
Draft agenda by next week.
b. Joint W3C-OASIS tech plenary (Dec) update.
c. January FTF. Offer to host in Sri Lanka (Arch unlikely). Other
offers?
d. March FTF. Technical Plenary March 1-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/arch/3/07/f2fSeptLogistics.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34650/ws0309/
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5. Task Force Status.
a. Properties and Features (dormant)
b. Patterns
c. Attributes
d. QA & Testing: Web Services Validation Tools Open Source Project
[.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0016.html
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- 77, 78: patterns issues raised by editors [.2].
- WSDL Versioning, R075, R119 [.3]
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0002.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0014.html
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7. Attributes
- TF recommendations [.1]
- Forward steps?
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0002.html
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8. R085 Describing endpoint references. [.1]
- General agreement to add such capability to WSDL, but
not agreement on the precise form of the annotations and
where in the WSDL they should reside. Proposal
from Umit [.3], response from Arthur [.4].
- Related issue (?) dynamic discovery of a service [.2].
- Forward steps?
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-20
03-04-22.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0004.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/att-0024/umit_pr
oposal.html__charset_ISO-8859-1
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0142.html
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9. Patterns. New draft [.1]
- Issue 77: Is the "name" the correct [local name] for
interface/operation/input/@name? [.2]
- Issue 78: Should we define an implied name if there is only
one /input? [.3]
- Awaiting fault generation rule update from Amy.
- Choose specific patterns for the standard [.4]:
1. TF recommendation: drop request-response and multicast-
solicit-response patterns, as subsumed by others [.5].
2. Sanjiva's proposal: drop any pattern not used in a
normative binding in our spec.
3. Tom's proposal: drop the "multi" patterns.
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12-patterns.
xml
[.2]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
77
[.3]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
78
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0010.html
[.5]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/meps-vs-iops/rec
ommendations_clean.htm
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10. Removing message. New Draft [.1], schema [.2]
- Changes to Appendix C (Arthur) [.3]
- Review of Appendix E (Jacek?) [.4]
- Editors have closed issue-eliminate-message, 33, 6c, 12, 74 [.5].
- Editors recommend closure of the following issues [.5].
* Issue 27: Remove 'style' attribute [.6]
* Issue 39: Binding extensions depend on structure of portType
[.7]
* Issue 40: Binding extensions for SOAP interact in a complex
way [.8]
* Issue 45: fault/@use should be optional [.9]
* Issue 48: soap:body/@use should be optional [.10]
* Issue 63: soap binding violates separation of abstract and
concrete [.11]
[.1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.xml
[.2] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.xsd
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0008.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0017.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Aug/0004.html
[.6]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
27
[.7]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
39
[.8]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
40
[.9]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
45
[.10]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
48
[.11]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.xml#x
63
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11. Binding enhancements. New draft [.1, .2]
- Change @name from NCName to QName - not implemented?
- Issue #2 addendum: Should we define a new binding element for
default rule for wsoap:operation/@soapActionURI.
Proposal = interfaceTNS#operation-name. Need
a separate issue number?
- Unresolved proposal: Drop <soap:binding>: drop @protocol, change
<soap:address>: add @protocol. Need to turn into an
issue?
- Issue #80: Inappropriate name for binding component [.3].
- Issue #81: Match between binding/@interface and
service/@interface should account for interface
inheritance. [.4]
- Issue #82: Relax binding syntax constraints in favor of
semantic constraints [.5]
- Issue #83: Specify interaction between binding extensions [.6]
- Issue #84: Are SOAP header faults needed? [.7]
- Issue #85: HTTP (non-SOAP) binding depends on message/part [.8]
Philippe to make proposal.
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.xml#Bindi
ng
[.2]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.xml#Endpo
int
[.3]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x80
[.4]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x81
[.5]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x82
[.6]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x83
[.7]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x84
[.8]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x85
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12. Naming the service resource [.1, .2]
- Latest discussion [.3, .4]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0008.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0107.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0145.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0148.html
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13. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
Jacek's synthesis [.5]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
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14. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
- Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2]
Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed
attribute.
- Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3].
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
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15. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
Awaiting proposal from Philippe.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html
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16. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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