RE: [rev 1] Agenda, 3-5 Nov 2003 WSDesc FTF

I can make monday after about 11 am, sorry.

Of course, I'm interested in the endpoint reference material as well as all
the of the currently scheduled monday afternoon material :-)

Another potential topic for the f2f is that the TAG appears close to
expressing it's finding on what the WSD WG brought up wrt naming of abstract
component references.  The latest, though soon to be obsoleted, draft of the
finding is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Oct/0027.html.
I plan on  having an update done by end of day thursday, though that is
somewhat at risk.  I can present the current status if you choose to
allocate the time.

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Marsh
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:15 PM
> To: www-ws-desc@w3.org
> Subject: [rev 1] Agenda, 3-5 Nov 2003 WSDesc FTF
> 
> 
> 
> [Second draft, thanks for all the helpful suggestions! Expect another
> draft reflecting our progress (or lack of same) at this 
> week's telcon.]
> 
> Logistics [1], dial-in numbers [2] (members only).
> 
>   [1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fNovLogistics.htm
>   [2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fNovLogistics.htm #Bridge
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Monday 3 November
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 09:00 Introductions and logistics
>     - Assignment of scribes
>         Candidates TBD
>     - Agenda fine-tuning
>     - Reviewing parts 1 and 2 for publication
>     - Charter extension (Jan 04 expiration date)
> 
> 09:20 Faults.
>     - Fault refs pointing to more than one message [3]
>     - Proposal for faults [4]; revised proposal [5]
>     - binding different fault details differently for same @messageRef
>       value) Optional name?  Allow optional
>       /definitions/binding/operation/fault/@details to be the 
> selector?
>       Waiting for a motivating use case.
> 
>   [3] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0213.html
>   [4] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0250.html
>   [5] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0051.html
> 
> 10:30 Break
> 10:50 RPC-style rules
>   - Missing rules [6]
>   - Syncing rules with SOAP 1.2 RPC [7]
>   - Clearer statement of normativity [8,9]
>  
>   [6] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0058.html 
>   [7] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0059.html 
>   [8] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0057.html
>   [9] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0062.html
> 
> 12:30 Lunch
> 13:30 Pattern inference [10]
>       (optional @pattern, optional @messageReference):
>     - Tabled decision on optional @pattern to future telcon.
>     - Tabled decision on optional @messageReference to a 
> future telcon.
>     - Sanjiva proposes dropping redundant {direction} property from 
>       the component model [11]
>     - messageReference attribute is optional (inconsistent) [12]
> 
>  [10] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0172.html
>  [11] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0210.html
>  [12] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0127.html
> 
> 15:00 Break
> 15:20 Uniqueness on the wire
>    - Proposal from Umit [13]
> 
>  [13] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0112.html
> 
> 17:30 Adjourn
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Tuesday 4 November
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 09:00 Multiple inline schemas [20]
> 
>  [20] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0074.html

10:00 Endpoint references
    - Proposal from Arthur/Umit [21]
    - Awaiting simplified proposal from Roberto/Glen
    - Motivation for R131 from DaveO [22]

 [21]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Sep/att-0071/ws-ref-
present-1.0.zip
 [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0181.html
 
10:30 Break
10:50 Endpoint references (cont)

12:30 Lunch
13:30 Attributes 

15:00 Break
15:20 Attributes (cont.)

16:00 Updated definition of equivalence (Sanjiva)

17:30 Adjourn

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Wednesday 5 November
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09:00 Publication review - motion to publish parts 1 and 2

09:15 Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [30].
    - Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [31]
      Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed 
      attribute.  Glen's Features and Properties musings [32]

 [30] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x2
 [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
 [32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0144.html 
 
10:30 Break
10:50 Drop @headers
    - Proposal from Sanjiva [33]
    - Related questions from Youenn [34]

 [33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Oct/0107.html
 [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0033.html

12:30 Adjourn