Agenda, 11 December 2003 WS Desc telcon

0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Dec/0028.html 
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
      Erik Ackerman, (fallbacks: Igor Sedukhin, Adi Sakala, 
      Glen Daniels, Jerry Thrasher, David Booth, 
      Jeffrey Schlimmer, Amy Lewis, Arthur Ryman)

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2.  Approval of minutes:
  - Dec 4th telcon [.1].

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0017.html

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3.  Review of Action items [.1].
?         2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the 
                      HTTP binding.
?         2003-09-11: Philippe to write a response to Mark Baker
                      proposing a property solution to HTTP verbs 
                      and ask whether this satisfies his request.
?         2003-09-18: Marsh to review the QA operational
                      guidelines.
?         2003-10-09: Bijan to look into message extensibility 
                      Issues (Appendix E, Jacek's review) wrt RDF data, 
                      and discuss with Jacek.
?         2003-11-03: PaulD to work out proposal for a top-level fault 
                      in more detail.
?         2003-11-03: Umit (with help of Glen) will write up a proposal 
                      for normative dispatching feature.
?         2003-11-04: Glen to write up rationale for removing headers 
                      (and?) proposal for a generic header-adding
                      property/feature.
DONE [.2] 2003-11-13: Tibco\Amy to draft sample scenarios for MEPs.
?         2003-11-13: DBooth to add discussion / example(s) re:
                      @schemaLocation for embedded schemas to the
                      primer.
DONE [.3] 2003-11-20: alewis to write up circular includes in specese.
?         2003-11-20: GlenD to write up Schemas in imported WSDL stuff
                      in specese.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0020.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0019.html

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Charter update review [.1]
   - 3 month extension then switch patent policy? (Philippe)
   - RDF mapping a Rec track doc? [.2]
   - Additional participants for testing? [.3]
  b. Holiday telcon schedule:
     No telcons: Dec 25, Jan 1
  c. Upcoming FTFs
     - January 26-30, Bedford, MA (Sonic) [.4]
       WSArch 26-29(noon)
       WSDesc 28(noon)-30
       Please register! [.5]
       Joint session topics: Usage scenarios document (NOTE)
     - March 1-2 or 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France.
       Joint session with the TAG?

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2003/12/ws-desc-charter
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Dec/0020.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Dec/0029.html
[.4] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/04-01-f2f.htm
[.5] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34650/WSAD0401/

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5.  Task Force Status.
 a. Properties and Features (dormant)
 b. Patterns (dormant)
 c. Attributes (dormant)
 d. QA & Testing
  - Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
  - Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]
 e. Joint TF on media type description.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.4]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2003Nov/0022.htm
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6.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
  - Fault ruleset accommodation for discarding faults (Jacek) [.2] 

[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy
     (Note that [.1] redirects to
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0022.html

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7.  Issue closure (Jacek) [.1]
  - Issues 26 [.2]: Replace transmission primitives by MEPs in
operation.
    Recommend closing now that we have well-defined patterns.
  - Issue 3 [.3]: How can arrays be declared?
    Recommend closing - we don't deal with SOAP Encoding.
  - Issue 14 [.4]: Request to support SOAP features.
    Recommend closing - we have features & properties.
  - Issue 23 [.5]: Request to support SOAP 1.2
    Recommend splitting issue into:
      Support for the Data Model and Encoding
      Support for RPC
      Support for transport binding framework
      Features (handled in Issue 14)
  - Issue 32 [.6]: Will SOAP 1.1 still be supported?
    Recommend closing - we won't support it in our spec.
  - Issue 65 [.7]: WSDL binding for FTP?
    Recommend closing - we won't do a SOAP/FTP binding.
  - Issue 69 [.8]: Marking headers as optional or required.
    Recommend fixing title of issue, then close since we removed 
    soap:headers. 

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0014.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x26
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x3
[.4] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x14
[.5] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x23
[.6] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x32
[.7] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x65
[.8] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x69

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8.  Circular includes
  - specese from Amy [.1] for WG ratification

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0019.html

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9.  Pattern descriptive text 
  - descriptions from Amy [.1] for WG ratification

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0020.html

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10. Issue 85: HTTP binding options [.1]
    - option 1: drop HTTP binding
    - option 2: input becomes POST body and output is POST response
    - option 3: option 2 + GET goes to http:address URL and output is 
                GET response
    - option 4: option 3 + rules to move all parameters into query 
                parameters for GET binding with MEP=in-out and
                @style=rpc
    - option 5: option 4 + URL replacement (not just query params)
    Continue thread from previous weeks.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0048.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x85

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Following items pending additional input:
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11. Schemas in imported WSDL (no issue number) [.1]
    - Seems to be agreement on the existing behavior as described by
    Gudge and Amy.  Still outstanding: do we add note along the lines
    of Glen's suggestion: put text in the spec to the effect that WSDL
    processors SHOULD make schema namespaces embedded in the <types> 
    sections of imported WSDLs available to their schema processors for
    xs:import where possible.

    Awaiting specese sample from Glen.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0109.html

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12. Proposal for combining the two attribute operation styles to one 
    (Jacek - no issue number) [.1]
    Deferred pending final disposition of attribute styles.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0164.html

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13. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
  - Jacek's synthesis [.5].
  - Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
    extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful 
    properties.  Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties 
    so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or 
    namespaces.
  - Marking WSDL operations as "safe" (DaveO/TAG) [.6, .7]

[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Nov/0104.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Dec/0021.html

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14. Appendix E cleanup [.1]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html

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15. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
    Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html

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