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RE: Crossreferencing the spec list with Apache's

From: David Booth <dbooth@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:58:20 -0500
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To: Paul Denning <pauld@mitre.org>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>

Again, this isn't something that the WG discussed, so I wouldn't feel 
comfortable adding it post facto.

I think the best solution is for you or Roger to re-send your list and 
include a "see also" section that lists:
         the Apache list
         the RRS feed
         whatever else

At 02:48 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, Paul Denning wrote:

>I suggest that David or Hugo create a page in http://www.w3.org that can 
>point to both lists and the RSS feed.
>They can decide where to put that page (since WSAWG is done), but since 
>the WS Activity lives on, I think anywhere under 
>http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ would be a good place.  And since the WS 
>Activity lives on, W3C resources would be available to update it if needed 
>(which is probably not too often since its just a few links to other 
>pages, not the summaries themselves).  WSCG could decide if an update is 
>appropriate.  Suggestions to update it can be sent to www-ws-arch.
>Then point the WSA appendix to that page (assuming there is time to do it 
>before it is published as a NOTE).
>Creating that page is probably a good idea even if we can't get the link 
>to it into the WSA doc.
>The page can be updated if we find any other good sources of summarized 
>WS-* specs.
>For example, I like these:
>NOTE that the Hyperlinks on the apache wiki [2] simply do a google search, 
>which may not get you to the associated spec.
>Our list [3] tries to link you directly to the spec.
>The Cover Pages site map [1] has some WS links, but mostly XML and SGML 
>links.  They are not currently grouped under a Web Services heading, but 
>if you search that page in your browser for "web service" you will find 
>some.  If you follow them, you may find additional WS-related specs.  For 
>example, [4] lists
>[1] http://xml.coverpages.org/siteIndex.html
>[2] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?WebServicesSpecifications
>[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2003Dec/0058.html
>[4] http://xml.coverpages.org/async.html
>At 12:30 AM 2004-02-02, Ugo Corda wrote:
>>I would link to the Apache list just as another example of attempts to
>>keep track of the existing Web services standards (attempts that are
>>becoming harder and harder ...).
>>I don't think we should necessarily endorse the contents of the Apache
>>list, given the fact that our group has never systematically analyzed
>>its contents.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Michael Champion [mailto:mc@xegesis.org]
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:14 PM
>> > To: Ugo Corda
>> > Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
>> > Subject: Re: Crossreferencing the spec list with Apache's
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Feb 1, 2004, at 10:00 PM, Ugo Corda wrote:
>> >
>> > > These messages seem to imply that our group was not aware of the
>> > > Apache list. In fact, we already discussed it last October (see the
>> > > "Apache" thread in the October archive). I actually modified the
>> > > Apache list at that time, based on that same discussion.
>> > >
>> >
>> > That slipped past me somehow :-)
>> >
>> > Oh yes, at the time it was portrayed on our list as a WS-splat list,
>> > not the same kind of thing as what we were doing.  As I recall I was
>> > heavily focused on the day job at that point and just didn't follow
>> > this carefully and check out the Apache list.  Sorry about
>> > that ... the
>> > logical thing to do would have been to make sure the Apache wiki had
>> > everything we knew about, and then we would point to it going
>> > forward.
>> > Oh well ...
>> >
>> > Do you think we should ask David to link to the Apache list in the
>> > Note, Ugo?
>> >
>> >

David Booth
W3C Fellow / Hewlett-Packard
Telephone: +1.617.253.1273
Received on Monday, 2 February 2004 15:58:52 UTC

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