- From: <michael.mahan@nokia.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:25:51 -0400
- To: <distobj@acm.org>, <dorchard@bea.com>
- Cc: <www-ws-arch@w3c.org>
It seems that the focus is on late binding of services. This should certainly be supported by the requirement I was trying to express. Recall the discussion: >'is comprised of loosely-coupled components and their >interrelationships' >>What does "loosely coupled" refer to here? In my experience, the most >>common use is wrt coupling between interface and implementation, but it >>has other meanings. We should be clear what we mean. >>>Well, my intention was that the components are decoupled relative to >>>each other (a change in one component doesn't force a change in another >>>component) and also in the common use you describe above. If we can agree >>>on that then I can try rewording this to make it clear. >>>>Ah ok, that makes sense. But I believe the term "late binding" (or >>>>similar) is typically what is used to refer to two separate software >>>>components and their ability to be integrated together at runtime. >>>>We haven't talked about this much as a group, but I personally believe >>>>that "late binding" is critical. Of course, like so much else in Web >>>>architecture, the generic, a priori interface gives you this. The >>>>IDL or WSDL approach provides a much earlier form of binding (not a >>>>good thing). There are other WS architecture components that benefit from loose coupling which have little to do with early or late binding of services. So when you say late-binding are you architectural covering these other components? (For instance, components responsible for discovery, inspection, authenication, confidentiality, reliable messaging, transactions, etc.) My preference is to keep the loosely-coupled verbiage at the top level and add a lower requirement in the theme of: AR00X.6 support both early and late client binding to web services. Moving on, to address another point between Mark and I: >>I don't really see what "minimally" adds, but I agree that describing >>components by roles and responsibilities is a good thing. Minimally was offered in the context that a well-defined interface is necessary but not sufficient to describing a component. Since we have some concensus, lets add the other two: AR00X.7 components must described by their functional roles and responsibilities. Next issue. Lets attempt to converge on this debate: AR00X.3 component relationships are described in terms of messages and message transmission protocols. ... > The original text defines component relationships as > 1. messages > 2. protocols by means of which these messages are transmitted > > I was trying to express this. Do you disagree with the level of abstraction > here (component relationship) or the verbiage? >>The verbiage, I guess. I disagree that a protocol, even an application >>protocol, defines or describes much of the relationship between components, >>except where that relationship relates to the interface (which an >>application protocol does define). ... If you agree that describing the relationship between architectural components is in scope, do you have a better suggestion. Note that I can see some further issue here that not all component to component interactions would necessarily be via messages. For instance, a programatic interface may be appropriate for a client to access security-related components.
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