- From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:32:08 -0800
- To: "'Joseph Hui'" <jhui@digisle.net>, "Srinivas Pandrangi" <srinivas@ipedo.com>, "Dave Hollander" <dmh@contivo.com>, www-ws-arch@w3.org
I think that the word "conduce" is not in the spirit of AG005. It is, indeed, a perfectly good word -- but I don't think that it is a very well known one. I'd rather stick to simple English when at all possible. > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Hui [SMTP:jhui@digisle.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:29 PM > To: Srinivas Pandrangi; Dave Hollander; www-ws-arch@w3.org > Subject: RE: Thoughts on AG001 (was RE: Strawman list of goals for > WSAWG ) > > Would "conduce" be an acceptable alternative to the > "enable" and "ensure" camps on AG001? > > I'm of the opinion that: ensuring interoperability may or > may not be the group's mandate; but surely it's something > worthy of best effort. > > Thanks_to_daniel_for_the_strawman += 1; > > Joe Hui > Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service > ========================================================= > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Srinivas Pandrangi [mailto:srinivas@ipedo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 4:02 PM > > To: Dave Hollander; www-ws-arch@w3.org > > Subject: RE: Thoughts on AG001 (was RE: Strawman list of goals for > > WSAWG) > > > > > > Let me thank Daniel as well. Kicking off these discussions is the > > toughest part, and you have done it so well. > > > > As for AG001, my understanding of the charter of this working group is > > that we will be defining an architecture at a rather coarse > > granularity, > > and leave the task of producing detailed specifications to > > other working > > groups. Is it our mandate to ensure that all products that implement > > these various specs will interoperate? IMHO, no, but if yes, > > I think it > > will be quite a task. I would like to voice my preference for "enable" > > as opposed to "ensure" as suggested in the telcon. > > > > From my past experience, I have seen situations where some > > organization > > produces specs, and some other organization works towards bringing > > interoperability to the products implementing the specs (bodies like > > IMC, ICSA etc come to mind). If things work out WSIO can play > > that role > > for web services. > > > > --Srinivas > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Hollander [mailto:dmh@contivo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:34 PM > > To: www-ws-arch@w3.org > > Subject: Thoughts on AG001 (was RE: Strawman list of goals for WSAWG) > > > > > > First, I would really like to thank Daniel for putting together > > such a complete and useful starter set of goals. > > > > Second, I suggest the we need to scope the level of our > > activity before > > we can get the wording correct on AG001. > > > > 1) Are we responsible for ensuring interoperability? If so, how do we > > enforce it? Does W3C or this WG want to create an escalation > > process with which to address identified violators? > > > > I worked with Philips and Sony on the original CD specifications > > and implementations. We owned the license to that technology and > > would have private conversations with licensees that did not > > conform > > to the spec. There was always the ultimate threat of revoking > > the > > license. Good system, but beyond what I think we are dealing > > with here. > > > > 2) Do we want to create the complete architectural framework that if > > conformed to will assure interoperability? If so, do we want to > > > > arbitrate disputes? > > > > This is my perfered position. This is a middle ground that I > > believe is within our ability to deliver yet still delivers > > value > > to the community. > > > > 3) Do we want to publish an architectural framework that will be used > > in conjunction with other standards and frameworks? > > > > I think this is too weak and ineffectual. I also believe this > > would > > run counter to the W3C Quality goals (although I am not expert > > on > > these.) > > > > > > If we choose (2), then I would propose the following wording: > > > > [AG001-a] provides a complete reference framework that encourages the > > development of interoperable software products from multiple > > vendors > > and provides a defensible basis for conformance and > > interoperability > > > > test suites. > > > > > > Regards, > > Dave Hollander > > Contivo, Inc. > > > > >
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