- From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@ChevronTexaco.com>
- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 08:46:10 -0700
- To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
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I would like to initiate a discussion of D-AC017 and D-AC017.1-4. I believe that this may be important in order to figure out whether a particular issue should be an agenda item at the F2F. First, here is what I think the status of this requirement is. Please feel free to correct me. 1 - I believe that I was the champion of this Critical Success Factor. 2 - I recall that I got a chance to make a case for the AC and, although the general idea that web services should do something along these lines is popular, there was very little positive response for these specific AC's. I believe that the feeling was that they are stated in a way that does not mesh well with other requirements and that the objectives are really covered in the Usage Cases. 3 - Since there was talk on the last con-call of "for-sure" getting the requirements finished at the F2F, and there was support for the concept of "if we can't agree drop it" -- or something along these lines -- I think that there is a good chance that all of D-AC017 is headed for oblivion. My personal reaction, as the "champion", is that I still like D-AC017 because it accurately and succinctly expresses what my personal major success criterion is for the WG. However, I feel that I had my chance to make my case, was listened to and did not obviously convince anybody. Under those circumstances I am hardly likely to object to it being dropped, and in fact I would propose it myself. Soooo -- one thing I am saying is: IF YOU REALLY LIKE D-AC017 YOU'D BETTER SAY SO REAL SOON. But there is another potential issue that I think may be much more important. As the requirement document stands, D-AC017 is the ONLY place that mentions "reliable messaging". If it is dropped ... well, I don't think that it is reasonable for the requirements not to mention reliable messaging at all. I believe that it has been very commonly expressed by many people in many forums that the two most important issues that need to be resolved in order to use web services in business settings are getting agreement on how to handle security and reliable messaging. I think that reliable messaging MUST be mentioned somehow or the WG will lose essential credibility. If D-AC017 is dropped I would be, if it's the best we can do, satisfied with something like, "The working group MUST address the issue of reliable messaging", which would leave open such deeply unsatisfying solutions as, "Reliable messaging is not possible," or "Reliable messaging is not a part of web services architecture" -- but I really don't think that we can just not mention it at all.
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