- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:06:24 +0000
- To: Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Cc: herman.ter.horst@philips.com, www-webont-wg@w3.org, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
I would be happy with Ians suggestions, although I suspect most readers would miss the implicit requirement. There is an explicit requirement to list the supported datatypes which I think is the key defence against surprising interoperability problems. Jeremy Ian Horrocks wrote: > I believe that we should keep changes to an absolute minimum. > > I don't believe that the change proposed by Herman, or either of the > first two changes proposed by Jeremy are necessary because they only > aim to make explicit what is already implicit). > > I believe that we should make the third change proposed by Jeremy, > i.e., to modify test miscellaneous-205 by deletion of the word "Full" > from its levels box - this slightly weakens the test and alleviates > the problem that it may really be incorrect in its current form. > > Ian > > > > On January 19, herman.ter.horst@philips.com writes: > >>During the last telecon I was actioned with Jeremy and Ian >>to look at the problem of XMLLiteral in OWL and propose >>a decision [1]. >>In this message I summarize the problem and the decision >>that was already proposed during the meeting. >>(See, e.g., [3-7] for earlier discussion about this problem.) >> >>Problem >>- The OWL design allows the possibility of doing without >>semantic conditions on XMLLiteral. This is visible in >>the Test document (see tests 201-205). >>- S&AS Section 5 (RDF-compatible model-theoretic semantics) >>does not allow the possibility of doing without semantic >>conditions on XMLLiteral. OWL Full interpretations as well >>as OWL DL interpretations are D-interpretations (from the >>RDF Semantics document) and thereby always incorporate >>semantic conditions on XMLLiteral. >>- This mismatch between S&AS and Test disturbs a bigger >>point: as is described in the first paragraph of Test, >>S&AS is the primary normative document about OWL, and >>Test is a 'subsidiary' document, aiming to give examples >>and clarification of S&AS. As I wrote earlier, >> >>>If the document >>>is left with an error like this, how can a reader decide >>>for any statement of S&AS whether it is reliable? >>> >>Example: the RDF graph >> v p l >> p rdfs:range rdfs:Literal >>where l is an ill-typed XML literal, is DL and >>Full-inconsistent according to S&AS Section 5, >>whether the datatype map D contains XMLLiteral or not. >>Test allows the possibility to not include XMLLiteral >>in the datatype map, in which case this RDF graph >>becomes consistent for DL or Full. >> >>== >> >>Proposed solution: >> >>incorporate the three changes precisely described in >>Jeremy's note "possible compromise on rdf:XMLLiteral" [2] >>*and* add one sentence to S&AS Section 5 following >>the sentence just before Section 5.1: >> "If, however, any conflict should ever arise between >> these two forms, then the Direct Model-Theoretic >> Semantics takes precedence." >>The new sentence following this sentence should express >>that this applies (so that the direct semantics takes >>precedence) when XMLLiteral is not in the datatype map. >> >>(To summarize, the three changes described by Jeremy in [2] >>ensure that >>-an OWL interpretation (S&AS Section 5.2) always assumes >>XMLLiteral in its datatype map (not mentioning this >>would misleadingly suggest that this is not necessary) >>-the datatype map for OWL Full always includes XMLLiteral >>-Test 205 does not apply to OWL Full.) >> >>During the last telecon support for this solution was expressed >>by Jeremy and me. >> >> >>Herman >> >>[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2004Jan/0040.html >>[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Dec/0100.html >> >>[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Dec/0035.html >>[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Dec/0042.html >>[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003OctDec/0233.html >>[6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Dec/0102.html >>[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Dec/0106.html >> >
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