- From: Deborah McGuinness <dlm@ksl.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:30:54 -0800
- To: Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>
- CC: Jonathan Borden <jonathan@openhealth.org>, webont <www-webont-wg@w3.org>, Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>, Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
I think ian's examples are valid real world examples of usefulness of OWL Lite DL. Essentially they are characterized by an application being able to take advantage of a reasoner's ability to classify descriptions correctly. this requires iff semantics. Similarly I think there are users who come more from a modeling orientation who would like a simple transition path up from rdfs and would benefit from an OWL lite that does not require them to understand the limitations imposed by DL. d Ian Horrocks wrote: > On February 12, Jonathan Borden writes: > > > > Ian Horrocks wrote: > > > On February 11, Jonathan Borden writes: > > ... > > > > > > > > I guess this all depends on what folks want OWL Lite to be. My take is > > that > > > > OWL Lite is lite from an editing point of view, and not necessarily much > > > > lighter than OWL DL from a reasoning point of view -- is that > > essentially > > > > correct? > > > > > > No it is *NOT* correct. Please see [1]. > > > > [1] is a good point, and one that I don't remember a good answer to. I have > > a different take on it. > > > > You seem to say that "oneOf" ought be removed from OWL-DL in order to give > > OWL-DL the properties that we've been told it will have -- fast (somewhat) > > efficient reasoning. Either "oneOf" does or doesn't belong in OWL-DL, but I > > guess I've always thought OWL-Lite to have a significantly different > > constituency than OWL-DL. > > This isn't my view; as far as I am concerned OWL Lite is just a cut > down version of OWL DL with similar characteristics but easier to > implement. > > > > > > > > > > If so, we could always do: > > > > > > > > OWL DL as a subset of OWL Full. (easier reasoning) > > > > > > > > OWL Lite as another subset of OWL Full. (easier editing)(this is your > > OWL > > > > flite). > > > > > > > > I guess the question is: who has a need for OWL Lite as a subset of OWL > > DL? > > > > > > Please see [2]. > > > > > > Regards, Ian > > > > > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0239.html > > > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0088.html > > > > Right, ok, but *you* are an OWL-DL person (sorry to pigeonhole you, but > > let's be totally clear about this). I am looking to the OWL-Lite folks for > > this answer. > > This is a very strange thing to say. I imagine that I will work mostly > with Lite as it is enough for many applications and easier to > implement. > > > People, if *we* can't be clear on this layering/relationship issue between > > our set of languages, the rest of the world is going to get terribly > > confused -- this could turn OWL into an Ostrich. > > We *were* clear about it up until recently! > > Ian > > > > > Jonathan > > -- Deborah L. McGuinness Knowledge Systems Laboratory Gates Computer Science Building, 2A Room 241 Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305-9020 email: dlm@ksl.stanford.edu URL: http://ksl.stanford.edu/people/dlm (voice) 650 723 9770 (stanford fax) 650 725 5850 (computer fax) 801 705 0941
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