- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:22:43 +0900
- To: Petr Kuba <kuba@optimsys.cz>
- CC: www-voice <www-voice@w3.org>
Thanks, Petr! Kazuyuki On 07/20/2010 12:12 AM, Petr Kuba wrote: > Hi Kazuyuki, > > no problem, take your time :-) > > There are still enough issues we can investigate without your decision. > > Regards, > Petr > > On 19.7.2010 17:04, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >> Hi Petr, >> >> Thanks a lot for your testing CCXML spec with the updated IRP and >> letting us know about these problems. As I mentioned in my previous >> message, I think we need some more discussion within the Voice Browser >> Working Group about this. I've already brought your request to the >> group and we are now discussing it. Could you please wait a moment? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kazuyuki >> >> >> On 07/19/2010 10:29 PM, Petr Kuba wrote: >>> Hi Kazuyuki, >>> >>> We have started to test new IR without new CR and we've already met >>> several problems. >>> >>> First, since we don't have new CR we can just guess correct behavior >>> according to the accepted issues and email discussions. So it is harder >>> to detect problems in the IR. >>> >>> Second, we've met problems that we already reported in the previous IR >>> and that haven't been fixed. We will report them in separate emails but >>> for instance: >>> >>> 1) 7_2: combination of attributes in<dialogstart> >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2010AprJun/0111.html >>> We haven't received any response for this issue yet. >>> >>> 2) 7_1: attribute enctype used with the value of the method "post" in >>> <dialogprepare> >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2010AprJun/0108.html >>> This is tracked as ISSUE-710 but there is no resolution yet. >>> >>> Since we don't know whether these issues will be accepted or rejected we >>> don't know how to behave in these cases. And we don't want to change our >>> implementation before having resolutions - it would help us to pass all >>> tests but it would be probably waste of time. >>> >>> Furthermore, if these issues are accepted it will be necessary to modify >>> the IR again! >>> >>> Therefore I believe that to prepare final version of the IR it is >>> necessary at least to resolve all issues but it would be better to >>> re-publish the CR as well. If I understand it right, it could be >>> difficult to fix any issues in the PR. >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Petr >>> >>> >>> On 16.7.2010 15:49, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >>>> Hi Petr, >>>> >>>> Thanks for asking about this. The Voice Browser Working Group >>>> discussed whether we should re-publish the Candidate Recommendation >>>> itself or not, and the conclusion was it should be OK to fix the >>>> issues in the CR when we publish the PR [e.g., 1] because we thought >>>> the specification could be tested even with the current CR. >>>> >>>> However, if it's really confusing and difficult to test the spec with >>>> the current CR published on April 1 [2], I think it's worth >>>> reconsidering we fix the issues right away and re-publish CR. I'd >>>> like to talk about how we should/could do within the group. >>>> >>>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2010JulSep/0002.html >>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/CR-ccxml-20100401/ >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Kazuyuki >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/16/2010 09:27 PM, Petr Kuba wrote: >>>>> Hello Kazuyuki, >>>>> >>>>> could you please inform us about intentions of the Working Group in >>>>> finalizing the Implementation Report and the CCXML Candidate Recommendation? >>>>> >>>>> Since some of the issues that appeared in the previous version of IR >>>>> involved also CR I'm not sure how to test new IR without new version of >>>>> CR. Shall we assume that the specification will be modified according to >>>>> the accepted issues or shall we use current version of the specification >>>>> although it contains bugs? >>>>> >>>>> Why have you decided not to change CR? >>>>> >>>>> I have to say that current situation looks pretty chaotic to me. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Petr Kuba >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16.7.2010 0:02, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >>>>>> Hi www-voice, >>>>>> >>>>>> The "Voice Browser Call Control: CCXML Version 1.0" specification >>>>>> entered the Candidate Recommendation period on 1 April 2010. And >>>>>> there were many thoughtful comments especially about its >>>>>> Implementation Report Plan document on this Voice Browser public list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now we have modified the Implementation Report Plan document based on >>>>>> all the public comments, and would like to publish the updated >>>>>> document today on 15 July 2010 at: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/Voice/2009/ccxml-irp/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Please see Appendix E [1] of the document for the detail of the >>>>>> changes from the previous version. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note: >>>>>> There is no changes in CCXML 1.0 Candidate Recommendation [2] itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/Voice/2009/ccxml-irp/#h_changes >>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/CR-ccxml-20100401/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kazuyuki >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/02/2010 04:44 PM, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >>>>>>> Hi www-voice, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are pleased to announce the advancement of "Voice Browser Call >>>>>>> Control: CCXML Version 1.0" to Candidate Recommendation on April 1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CCXML provides declarative markup to describe telephony call >>>>>>> control. It can provide a complete telephony service application, >>>>>>> comprised of Web server CGI compliant application logic, one or more >>>>>>> CCXML documents to declare and perform call control actions, and to >>>>>>> control one or more dialog applications that perform user media >>>>>>> interactions. CCXML is a language that can be used with a dialog >>>>>>> system such as (but not limited to) VoiceXML. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The specification is now available as follows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This version: >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/CR-ccxml-20100401/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Latest version: >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/ccxml/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please submit your Implementation Reports by May 28. The >>>>>>> Implementation Report Plan document is available at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/Voice/2009/ccxml-irp/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kazuyuki Ashimura (on behalf of the Voice Browser Working Group co-Chairs) >>>>>>> Voice Browser Activity Lead >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- Kazuyuki Ashimura / W3C Multimodal & Voice Activity Lead mailto: ashimura@w3.org voice: +81.466.49.1170 / fax: +81.466.49.1171
Received on Monday, 19 July 2010 15:23:18 UTC