- From: Petr Kuba <kuba@optimsys.cz>
- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:12:54 +0200
- To: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- CC: www-voice <www-voice@w3.org>
Hi Kazuyuki, no problem, take your time :-) There are still enough issues we can investigate without your decision. Regards, Petr On 19.7.2010 17:04, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: > Hi Petr, > > Thanks a lot for your testing CCXML spec with the updated IRP and > letting us know about these problems. As I mentioned in my previous > message, I think we need some more discussion within the Voice Browser > Working Group about this. I've already brought your request to the > group and we are now discussing it. Could you please wait a moment? > > Thanks, > > Kazuyuki > > > On 07/19/2010 10:29 PM, Petr Kuba wrote: >> Hi Kazuyuki, >> >> We have started to test new IR without new CR and we've already met >> several problems. >> >> First, since we don't have new CR we can just guess correct behavior >> according to the accepted issues and email discussions. So it is harder >> to detect problems in the IR. >> >> Second, we've met problems that we already reported in the previous IR >> and that haven't been fixed. We will report them in separate emails but >> for instance: >> >> 1) 7_2: combination of attributes in<dialogstart> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2010AprJun/0111.html >> We haven't received any response for this issue yet. >> >> 2) 7_1: attribute enctype used with the value of the method "post" in >> <dialogprepare> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2010AprJun/0108.html >> This is tracked as ISSUE-710 but there is no resolution yet. >> >> Since we don't know whether these issues will be accepted or rejected we >> don't know how to behave in these cases. And we don't want to change our >> implementation before having resolutions - it would help us to pass all >> tests but it would be probably waste of time. >> >> Furthermore, if these issues are accepted it will be necessary to modify >> the IR again! >> >> Therefore I believe that to prepare final version of the IR it is >> necessary at least to resolve all issues but it would be better to >> re-publish the CR as well. If I understand it right, it could be >> difficult to fix any issues in the PR. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Regards, >> Petr >> >> >> On 16.7.2010 15:49, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >>> Hi Petr, >>> >>> Thanks for asking about this. The Voice Browser Working Group >>> discussed whether we should re-publish the Candidate Recommendation >>> itself or not, and the conclusion was it should be OK to fix the >>> issues in the CR when we publish the PR [e.g., 1] because we thought >>> the specification could be tested even with the current CR. >>> >>> However, if it's really confusing and difficult to test the spec with >>> the current CR published on April 1 [2], I think it's worth >>> reconsidering we fix the issues right away and re-publish CR. I'd >>> like to talk about how we should/could do within the group. >>> >>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2010JulSep/0002.html >>> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/CR-ccxml-20100401/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kazuyuki >>> >>> >>> On 07/16/2010 09:27 PM, Petr Kuba wrote: >>>> Hello Kazuyuki, >>>> >>>> could you please inform us about intentions of the Working Group in >>>> finalizing the Implementation Report and the CCXML Candidate Recommendation? >>>> >>>> Since some of the issues that appeared in the previous version of IR >>>> involved also CR I'm not sure how to test new IR without new version of >>>> CR. Shall we assume that the specification will be modified according to >>>> the accepted issues or shall we use current version of the specification >>>> although it contains bugs? >>>> >>>> Why have you decided not to change CR? >>>> >>>> I have to say that current situation looks pretty chaotic to me. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Petr Kuba >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16.7.2010 0:02, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >>>>> Hi www-voice, >>>>> >>>>> The "Voice Browser Call Control: CCXML Version 1.0" specification >>>>> entered the Candidate Recommendation period on 1 April 2010. And >>>>> there were many thoughtful comments especially about its >>>>> Implementation Report Plan document on this Voice Browser public list. >>>>> >>>>> Now we have modified the Implementation Report Plan document based on >>>>> all the public comments, and would like to publish the updated >>>>> document today on 15 July 2010 at: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.w3.org/Voice/2009/ccxml-irp/ >>>>> >>>>> Please see Appendix E [1] of the document for the detail of the >>>>> changes from the previous version. >>>>> >>>>> Note: >>>>> There is no changes in CCXML 1.0 Candidate Recommendation [2] itself. >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/Voice/2009/ccxml-irp/#h_changes >>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/CR-ccxml-20100401/ >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Kazuyuki >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04/02/2010 04:44 PM, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >>>>>> Hi www-voice, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are pleased to announce the advancement of "Voice Browser Call >>>>>> Control: CCXML Version 1.0" to Candidate Recommendation on April 1. >>>>>> >>>>>> CCXML provides declarative markup to describe telephony call >>>>>> control. It can provide a complete telephony service application, >>>>>> comprised of Web server CGI compliant application logic, one or more >>>>>> CCXML documents to declare and perform call control actions, and to >>>>>> control one or more dialog applications that perform user media >>>>>> interactions. CCXML is a language that can be used with a dialog >>>>>> system such as (but not limited to) VoiceXML. >>>>>> >>>>>> The specification is now available as follows. >>>>>> >>>>>> This version: >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/CR-ccxml-20100401/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Latest version: >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/ccxml/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Please submit your Implementation Reports by May 28. The >>>>>> Implementation Report Plan document is available at: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/Voice/2009/ccxml-irp/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kazuyuki Ashimura (on behalf of the Voice Browser Working Group co-Chairs) >>>>>> Voice Browser Activity Lead >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
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