Re: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: TTS vs. ASR in 4.5

Issue R103-26
Proposed Classification: Clarification / Typo / Editorial 
Resolution: Reject 
The following text appears in Section 4.5 [1]: 
"In order to remove the need for duplication of pronunciation information to cope with the above variations, the <lexeme> element may contain more than one <grapheme> element to define the base orthography and any variants which should share the pronunciations." 
We believe that there is general utility, beyond text-to-speech, for supporting multiple graphemes. To illustrate one such case, the following lexicon might be used for US English: 
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

 <lexicon version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/01/pronunciation-lexicon"
       alphabet="ipa" xml:lang="en-US">
     
     <lexeme> 
       <grapheme>judgment<\grapheme> 
       <grapheme>judgement<\grapheme> 
       <phoneme>ˈʤʌʤ.mənt<\phoneme> 
     <\lexeme> 
     <lexeme> 
       <grapheme>fiancé<\grapheme> 
       <grapheme>fiance<\grapheme> 
       <phoneme>fiˈɑ̃ːn.seɪ<\phoneme> 
       <phoneme>ˌfiː.ɑːnˈseɪ<\phoneme> 
     <\lexeme> 
 </lexicon>
In text-to-speech documents, as has been noted, 

 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

 <speak version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/10/synthesis"
   xml:lang="en-US">
     
     <lexicon uri="http://www.example.com/lexicon_defined_above.xml"/> 
     
     <p> In the judgement of my fiancé, Las Vegas is the best place for a honeymoon.
       I replied that I preferred Venice and didn't think the Venetian casino was an
       acceptable compromise.<\p> 
 </speak>
but also in speech recognition grammars, 

 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

 <grammar version="1.0" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/06/grammar" 
   xml:lang="en-US" root="movies">
     
     <lexicon uri="http://www.example.com/lexicon_defined_above.xml"/> 
     
     <rule id="movies" scope="public"> 
       <one-of> 
         <item>Terminator 2: Judgment Day<\item> 
         <item>My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance<\item> 
         <item>Pluto's Judgement Day<\item> 
       <\one-of> 
     <\rule> 
 </grammar>
We feel that this is used both for TTS and ASR therefore we reject your proposal to add only "text-to-speech". 

Please indicate whether you are satisfied with the VBWG's resolution, whether you think there has been a misunderstanding, or whether you wish to register an objection. 
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/#S4.5 <http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/>  

Paolo Baggia, editor PLS spec.

P.S. If you have trouble to see the IPA codes, please ask me. I’ll upload a HTML
document and send you the URI.

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 Comment from the i18n review of:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/

 Comment 26
 At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0603-pls10/
 Editorial/substantive: E
 Owner: RI

 Location in reviewed document:
 4.5, 3rd para

 Comment: 
 "In order to remove the need for duplication of pronunciation information to cope with the above variations, the<lexeme> element may"


 Here is an example of where it might be good to distinguish between TTS and ASR. You could say: "In order to remove the need for duplication of pronunciation information to cope with the above variations during text-to-speech, the <lexeme> element may contain"




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