- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: 18 Sep 2003 15:55:53 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Hello, The agenda for the 22 Sep 2003 TAG teleconf is available as HTML [1] and as text below. _ Ian [1] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/22-tag.html ======================================================== Agenda of 22 September 2003 TAG teleconference Nearby: [4]Teleconference details · [5]issues list ([6]handling new issues)· [7]www-tag archive [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#remote [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist [6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.html [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/ Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of business (Boston time) Thursday of this week. 1. Administrative (15min) 1. Roll call. NW to Chair. Regrets: SW, DO 2. Accept the minutes of the [8]15 Sep teleconf? 3. Accept this [9]agenda? 4. Next meeting 29 Sep teleconf? 5. TAG participation in Tech Plenary 2004 (1-5 March)? [8] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/15-tag-summary.html [9] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/22-tag.html Upcoming events: * 18 Sep: Next draft from NW/DO of extensibility draft finding * 22 Sep telcon: Review of Editors' draft of arch doc * 29 Sep telcon: Focus on Findings * 1 Oct: TR page draft of arch doc * 6-8 Oct ftf: arch doc review primarily, publishing expectations 1.1 Bristol FTF Agenda 1. Primarily focused on Arch Doc, TAG findings. 2. 9h - 17h M, T. (Not sure for W). 3. [10]Meeting page [10] http://www.w3.org/2003/10/06-tag-mtg 2. Technical (75min) 2.1 Architecture Document Reference draft: [11]18 September 2003 Editor's Draft of the Arch Doc. [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/webarch-20030918/ 2.1.1 Review of actions related to Architecture Document Completed action items: * Completed action TB 2003/08/18: Bring some Vancouver ftf meeting photos to IJ attention (of whiteboard, re: CL action about illustration of two resources). Done, but IJ has not incorporated images in 18 Sep draft. * Completed action TB 2003/08/04: Write a definition of "XML-based" (Done; in 18 Sep Arch Doc). * Completed action IJ 2003/08/04: s/machine-readable/something like: optimized for processors, w/ defn that includes notion that it can be processed unattended (by a person). * Completed action TB and CL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement sentence in section 3.2.2.1 regarding advantages of text formats. Please confirm that this is done in 18 Sep draft. Open action items: * Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 3. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 18 August. * Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of "[12]Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF. * Action TBL 2003/07/14: Suggest changes to section about extensibility related to "when to tunnel". * Action CL 2003/07/21: Create an illustration of two resources, one designated by URI without fragment, and one designated by same URI with fragment... * Action IJ, CL 2003/07/21: Discuss and propose improved wording of language regarding SVG spec in bulleted list in 2.5.1. * Action DC 2003/07/21: Propose language for section 2.8.5 showing examples of freenet and other systems. [12] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations The following action items were follow-up from the 22 July face-to-face meeting in Vancouver: * Identification and resources 1. TBL 2003/08/21: Write replacement text for Moby Dick example in section 2.6 (on URI ambiguity). Is this done in [13]TBL's draft? * Representations 1. TB, IJ 2003/08/21: Integrate findings. What does this mean? [13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/webarch/tim#URI-persistence 2.1.2 Review of 18 Sep draft 2.2 Findings * [14]11 Sep 2003 draft of Deep Linking in the WWW + Action TB 2003/09/15: Ask Lauren Wood to review German text to see if applicable. + Pending action IJ 2003/09/15: Take back to Comm Team publicity of this document. * [15]whenToUseGet-7: 16 September 2003 draft of [16]URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST + Completed action IJ 2003/09/15: Incorporate NM comments and publish revision. If nobody shouts "Stop!" then we consider the finding accepted by the TAG. + Reviews? Objections? + Action DC 2003/09/15: Provide TAG with pointers into WS specs where issue of safe operations is manifest. + Action DO 2003/09/15: Ask WSDL WG to look at finding; ask them if marking operations as safe in WSDL is one of their requirements. * [17]contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of [18]Client handling of MIME headers 1. Completed action TB 2003/09/15: Draft a Note to authors of RFC 3023 cc'ing www-tag about concerns regarding charset asking about chances of getting this fixed. ([19]Done) 2. Completed action RF 2003/09/15: Proposed substitute text in light of [20]previous comments on charset param. ([21]Done) 3. [22]Comments from Philipp Hoschka about usability issues when user involved in error correction. Is there a new Voice spec out we can point to for example behavior? 4. [23]Comments from Chris Lilley 5. Change "MIME headers" to "server metadata" in title? * NW, DO 2003/09/08: Produce new draft of Extensibility/Versioning finding, due 18 Sep. [14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911.html [15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#whenToUseGet-7 [16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030916 [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24 [18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0042.html [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0051.html [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0043.html [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0076.html [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0113.html _________________________________________________________________ 2.3 Findings See also [24]TAG findings home page. [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings/ 2.3.1 Draft findings that require more discussion * [25]xmlIDSemantics-32: 1. [26]Chris Lilley draft finding. 2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new input from reviewers. * [27]contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting, revision due 8 August. * [28]metadataInURI-31: 8 July 2003 draft of "[29]The use of Metadata in URIs" + Action SW 2003/07/21: Produce a revision of this finding based on Vancouver ftf meeting discussion. + Action DO 2003/07/07: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants to peek inside the URI. + See also [30]TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI schemes instead of headers + See comments from [31]Mark Nottingham and [32]followup from Noah M. * [33]abstractComponentRefs-37 + Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask them for their analysis. [25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlIDSemantics-32 [26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html [27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26 [28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31 [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31 [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0151.html [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0048.html [32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0055.html [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37 2.3.2 Expected new findings 1. [34]contentPresentation-26: Action CL (and IJ from ftf meeting) 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting, revision due 8 August. 2. Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn [35]TB apple story into a finding. [34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26 [35] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/30/AppleWA 2.4 Issues The TAG does not expect to discuss these issues at this meeting. 2.4.1 Identifiers ([36]URIEquivalence-15 , [37]IRIEverywhere-27) [36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15 [37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27 * [38]URIEquivalence-15 + SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where [39]Tim Bray text has been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this issue to pending state. * [40]IRIEverywhere-27 + Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of IRIs. + Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications that handle IRIs are inconsistent. [41]TBL draft not yet available on www-tag. + See TB's [42]proposed step forward on IRI 27. [38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15 [39] http://www.textuality.com/tag/uri-comp-4 [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27 [41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0074.html [42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0090.html 2.4.2 Qnames, fragments, and media types([43]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6, [44]fragmentInXML-28, [45]abstractComponentRefs-37, [46]putMediaType-38) [43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 [44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28 [45] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37 [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38 * [47]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 + Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema desideratum ([48]RQ-23). * [49]fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML. 1. Connection to content negotiation? 2. Connection to opacity of URIs? 3. No actions associated / no owner. * [50]abstractComponentRefs-37(discussed [51]above). * [52]putMediaType-38 [47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6 [48] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xmlschema-11-req-20030121/#N400183 [49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28 [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37 [51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag.html#findingsInProgress [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38 2.4.3 New and other Issues requested for discussion. ([53]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33, [54]RDFinXHTML-35, [55]siteData-36 plus possible new issues) [53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 [54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35 [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36 Existing Issues: * [56]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 * [57]RDFinXHTML-35 * [58]siteData-36 + Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36 [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33 [57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35 [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36 2.4.4 Miscellaneous issues * [59]namespaceDocument-8 + Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue, pointing to the RDDL Note. See [60]comments from Paul regarding TB theses. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 31 August. + Action PC 2003/09/08: Providing WebArch text as well for this issue. + Action TB 2003/09/15: Add "Hello World" example to next draft of RDDL Spec (i.e., to edited version of [61]RDDL draft 4). + Action TB 2003/09/15: Produce schemaware for RDDL spec once TAG has consensus on the syntax. + Completed action SW 2003/09/16: Ping PC on the status of his actions ([62]Done) + Refer to draft TAG [63]opinion from Tim Bray on the use of URNs for namespace names. * [64]uriMediaType-9 + IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft (see [65]email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close this issue? + Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?] * [66]HTTPSubstrate-16 + Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended to be excluded from RFC 3205 + See [67]message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services. * [68]xlinkScope-23 + See [69]draft, and [70]SW message to CG chairs. + Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking for an update on xlinkScope-23. * [71]binaryXML-30 + Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on adding to survey. + Action IJ 2003/07/21: Add link from issues list binaryXML-30 to upcoming workshop + Next steps to finding? See [72]summary from Chris. * [73]xmlFunctions-34 + Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to XML Core work. See [74]email from TimBL capturing some of the issues. * [75]charmodReview-17 1. Action SW 2003/09/08: Follow up with I18N folks on status of TAG's charmod comments. 2. [76]Mail from DC to I18N WG in light of new Charmod draft * [77]rdfURIMeaning-39 [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag#namespaceDocument-8 [60] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0046.html [61] http://www.tbray.org/tag/rddl4.html [62] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Sep/0045.html [63] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0003.html [64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#uriMediaType-9 [65] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0302.html [66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#HTTPSubstrate-16 [67] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0208.html [68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#xlinkScope-23 [69] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0094.html [70] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0104 [71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#binaryXML-30 [72] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0224.html [73] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlFunctions-34 [74] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0309.html [75] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#charmodReview-17 [76] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Sep/0019.html [77] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#rdfURIMeaning-39 3. Other actions * Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. PLH has put the issues list in production; see the [78]DOM issues list. [78] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/09-dom-core-issues/issues.html _________________________________________________________________ Ian Jacobs for Stuart Williams and TimBL Last modified: $Date: 2003/09/18 19:50:57 $ -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Tel: +1 718 260-9447
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