- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: 18 Sep 2003 15:55:53 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Hello,
The agenda for the 22 Sep 2003 TAG teleconf is available
as HTML [1] and as text below.
_ Ian
[1] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/22-tag.html
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Agenda of 22 September 2003 TAG teleconference
Nearby: [4]Teleconference details · [5]issues list ([6]handling new
issues)· [7]www-tag archive
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#remote
[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist
[6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.html
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of
business (Boston time) Thursday of this week.
1. Administrative (15min)
1. Roll call. NW to Chair. Regrets: SW, DO
2. Accept the minutes of the [8]15 Sep teleconf?
3. Accept this [9]agenda?
4. Next meeting 29 Sep teleconf?
5. TAG participation in Tech Plenary 2004 (1-5 March)?
[8] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/15-tag-summary.html
[9] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/22-tag.html
Upcoming events:
* 18 Sep: Next draft from NW/DO of extensibility draft finding
* 22 Sep telcon: Review of Editors' draft of arch doc
* 29 Sep telcon: Focus on Findings
* 1 Oct: TR page draft of arch doc
* 6-8 Oct ftf: arch doc review primarily, publishing expectations
1.1 Bristol FTF Agenda
1. Primarily focused on Arch Doc, TAG findings.
2. 9h - 17h M, T. (Not sure for W).
3. [10]Meeting page
[10] http://www.w3.org/2003/10/06-tag-mtg
2. Technical (75min)
2.1 Architecture Document
Reference draft: [11]18 September 2003 Editor's Draft of the Arch Doc.
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/webarch-20030918/
2.1.1 Review of actions related to Architecture Document
Completed action items:
* Completed action TB 2003/08/18: Bring some Vancouver ftf meeting
photos to IJ attention (of whiteboard, re: CL action about
illustration of two resources). Done, but IJ has not incorporated
images in 18 Sep draft.
* Completed action TB 2003/08/04: Write a definition of "XML-based"
(Done; in 18 Sep Arch Doc).
* Completed action IJ 2003/08/04: s/machine-readable/something like:
optimized for processors, w/ defn that includes notion that it can
be processed unattended (by a person).
* Completed action TB and CL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement
sentence in section 3.2.2.1 regarding advantages of text formats.
Please confirm that this is done in 18 Sep draft.
Open action items:
* Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 3. From 21 July ftf meeting,
due 18 August.
* Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of
"[12]Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF.
* Action TBL 2003/07/14: Suggest changes to section about
extensibility related to "when to tunnel".
* Action CL 2003/07/21: Create an illustration of two resources, one
designated by URI without fragment, and one designated by same URI
with fragment...
* Action IJ, CL 2003/07/21: Discuss and propose improved wording of
language regarding SVG spec in bulleted list in 2.5.1.
* Action DC 2003/07/21: Propose language for section 2.8.5 showing
examples of freenet and other systems.
[12] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations
The following action items were follow-up from the 22 July
face-to-face meeting in Vancouver:
* Identification and resources
1. TBL 2003/08/21: Write replacement text for Moby Dick example
in section 2.6 (on URI ambiguity). Is this done in [13]TBL's
draft?
* Representations
1. TB, IJ 2003/08/21: Integrate findings. What does this mean?
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/webarch/tim#URI-persistence
2.1.2 Review of 18 Sep draft
2.2 Findings
* [14]11 Sep 2003 draft of Deep Linking in the WWW
+ Action TB 2003/09/15: Ask Lauren Wood to review German text
to see if applicable.
+ Pending action IJ 2003/09/15: Take back to Comm Team
publicity of this document.
* [15]whenToUseGet-7: 16 September 2003 draft of [16]URIs,
Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST
+ Completed action IJ 2003/09/15: Incorporate NM comments and
publish revision. If nobody shouts "Stop!" then we consider
the finding accepted by the TAG.
+ Reviews? Objections?
+ Action DC 2003/09/15: Provide TAG with pointers into WS specs
where issue of safe operations is manifest.
+ Action DO 2003/09/15: Ask WSDL WG to look at finding; ask
them if marking operations as safe in WSDL is one of their
requirements.
* [17]contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of [18]Client
handling of MIME headers
1. Completed action TB 2003/09/15: Draft a Note to authors of
RFC 3023 cc'ing www-tag about concerns regarding charset
asking about chances of getting this fixed. ([19]Done)
2. Completed action RF 2003/09/15: Proposed substitute text in
light of [20]previous comments on charset param. ([21]Done)
3. [22]Comments from Philipp Hoschka about usability issues when
user involved in error correction. Is there a new Voice spec
out we can point to for example behavior?
4. [23]Comments from Chris Lilley
5. Change "MIME headers" to "server metadata" in title?
* NW, DO 2003/09/08: Produce new draft of Extensibility/Versioning
finding, due 18 Sep.
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911.html
[15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#whenToUseGet-7
[16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030916
[17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24
[18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0042.html
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0051.html
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Sep/0043.html
[22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0076.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0113.html
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2.3 Findings
See also [24]TAG findings home page.
[24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings/
2.3.1 Draft findings that require more discussion
* [25]xmlIDSemantics-32:
1. [26]Chris Lilley draft finding.
2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new
input from reviewers.
* [27]contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a
draft finding on content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting,
revision due 8 August.
* [28]metadataInURI-31: 8 July 2003 draft of "[29]The use of
Metadata in URIs"
+ Action SW 2003/07/21: Produce a revision of this finding
based on Vancouver ftf meeting discussion.
+ Action DO 2003/07/07: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants
to peek inside the URI.
+ See also [30]TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI
schemes instead of headers
+ See comments from [31]Mark Nottingham and [32]followup from
Noah M.
* [33]abstractComponentRefs-37
+ Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask
them for their analysis.
[25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlIDSemantics-32
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0151.html
[31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0048.html
[32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Aug/0055.html
[33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37
2.3.2 Expected new findings
1. [34]contentPresentation-26: Action CL (and IJ from ftf meeting)
2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on
content/presentation. From 21 July ftf meeting, revision due 8
August.
2. Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn [35]TB apple story into a finding.
[34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26
[35] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/30/AppleWA
2.4 Issues
The TAG does not expect to discuss these issues at this meeting.
2.4.1 Identifiers ([36]URIEquivalence-15 , [37]IRIEverywhere-27)
[36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27
* [38]URIEquivalence-15
+ SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where [39]Tim Bray text has
been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this
issue to pending state.
* [40]IRIEverywhere-27
+ Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of
IRIs.
+ Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications
that handle IRIs are inconsistent. [41]TBL draft not yet
available on www-tag.
+ See TB's [42]proposed step forward on IRI 27.
[38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15
[39] http://www.textuality.com/tag/uri-comp-4
[40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27
[41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0074.html
[42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0090.html
2.4.2 Qnames, fragments, and media types([43]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6,
[44]fragmentInXML-28, [45]abstractComponentRefs-37, [46]putMediaType-38)
[43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
[44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28
[45] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38
* [47]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
+ Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema
desideratum ([48]RQ-23).
* [49]fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML.
1. Connection to content negotiation?
2. Connection to opacity of URIs?
3. No actions associated / no owner.
* [50]abstractComponentRefs-37(discussed [51]above).
* [52]putMediaType-38
[47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
[48] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xmlschema-11-req-20030121/#N400183
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag.html#findingsInProgress
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38
2.4.3 New and other Issues requested for discussion.
([53]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33, [54]RDFinXHTML-35, [55]siteData-36 plus
possible new issues)
[53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36
Existing Issues:
* [56]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
* [57]RDFinXHTML-35
* [58]siteData-36
+ Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36
2.4.4 Miscellaneous issues
* [59]namespaceDocument-8
+ Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue,
pointing to the RDDL Note. See [60]comments from Paul
regarding TB theses. From 21 July ftf meeting, due 31 August.
+ Action PC 2003/09/08: Providing WebArch text as well for this
issue.
+ Action TB 2003/09/15: Add "Hello World" example to next draft
of RDDL Spec (i.e., to edited version of [61]RDDL draft 4).
+ Action TB 2003/09/15: Produce schemaware for RDDL spec once
TAG has consensus on the syntax.
+ Completed action SW 2003/09/16: Ping PC on the status of his
actions ([62]Done)
+ Refer to draft TAG [63]opinion from Tim Bray on the use of
URNs for namespace names.
* [64]uriMediaType-9
+ IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft
(see [65]email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close
this issue?
+ Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to
registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?]
* [66]HTTPSubstrate-16
+ Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether
the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended
to be excluded from RFC 3205
+ See [67]message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services.
* [68]xlinkScope-23
+ See [69]draft, and [70]SW message to CG chairs.
+ Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking
for an update on xlinkScope-23.
* [71]binaryXML-30
+ Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on
adding to survey.
+ Action IJ 2003/07/21: Add link from issues list binaryXML-30
to upcoming workshop
+ Next steps to finding? See [72]summary from Chris.
* [73]xmlFunctions-34
+ Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to
XML Core work. See [74]email from TimBL capturing some of the
issues.
* [75]charmodReview-17
1. Action SW 2003/09/08: Follow up with I18N folks on status of
TAG's charmod comments.
2. [76]Mail from DC to I18N WG in light of new Charmod draft
* [77]rdfURIMeaning-39
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag#namespaceDocument-8
[60] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0046.html
[61] http://www.tbray.org/tag/rddl4.html
[62] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Sep/0045.html
[63] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0003.html
[64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#uriMediaType-9
[65] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0302.html
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#HTTPSubstrate-16
[67] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0208.html
[68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#xlinkScope-23
[69] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0094.html
[70] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0104
[71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#binaryXML-30
[72] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0224.html
[73] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlFunctions-34
[74] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0309.html
[75] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#charmodReview-17
[76] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Sep/0019.html
[77] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#rdfURIMeaning-39
3. Other actions
* Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that
actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. PLH has put the
issues list in production; see the [78]DOM issues list.
[78] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/09-dom-core-issues/issues.html
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Ian Jacobs for Stuart Williams and TimBL
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