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Re: [css-cascade-4][css3-ui] naming collision: the "default" value

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 11:50:51 -0700
Message-ID: <CAAWBYDBVuM1_rY5UpENJXz4sHvvBTa=BXm5jS3FDm+PuptZzyA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bruno Racineux <bruno@hexanet.net>
Cc: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net>, Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Bruno Racineux <bruno@hexanet.net> wrote:
> On 5/4/15 8:45 AM, "Brad Kemper" <brad.kemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On May 3, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Bruno Racineux <bruno@hexanet.net> wrote:
>>>>> On May 1, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Bruno Racineux <bruno@hexanet.net> wrote:
>>>>> If the feature resets to the previous origin. Why not call it like it
>>>>> is:
>>>>> 'origin'? Or 'reset-origin'. But 'reset' doesn't have much value
>>>> IMO, 'origin' adds to the confusion, because it makes me wonder, "what
>>>> origin"?
>>> That's the intent. Just like you need to know what 'initial' means.
>>The intent is to add confusion???
> The intent is to be informed. 'Origin' is one of the fundamentals of the
> CSS cascade. Learning fundamentals of a language before using it is
> important... /aside
> One point here is that 'initial' is a state. 'reset, 'clear', 'wipe',
> 'fallback' or 'rollback' are actions, not states.
> It doesn't explain the previous point(s) of origin very well.
> If no love for 'origin' alone, how about:
> 'ua-origin','default-origin' or 'back-origin'?

"origin" is also an already-overloaded term of art in the web (the
more important usage of it is the origin of a URL), and we don't
really talk about it except in Cascade; in ordinary parlance, we talk
about "the user-agent stylesheet" directly, rather than mentioning the
"user-agent origin".  I agree that it's not a good term to use here.

My favorite is "default-value" from Florian. ^_^

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