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Re: [css-ruby] Tone mark of bopomofo in ruby

From: Bobby Tung <bobbytung@wanderer.tw>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:20:48 +0800
Cc: Xidorn Quan <quanxunzhen@gmail.com>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, CJK discussion <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1B4B72ED-55AB-4CE3-8DAC-13E56733C97C@wanderer.tw>
To: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>
> I can't see the file.

Try this one. not like Word, Pages do not handle Bopomofo well, only for HTML export.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/929x9n8nwhc2ofh/Bopomofo%20from%20Pages.mov?dl=0

> 1. Do you want browsers to re-order the light tone marks, or do you
> think it should be done in the source HTML files?

No, browser just do nothing, it should be done in the source HTML files.

> 2. I recommend you to initiate an open source font project that
> handles positioning of second/third/forth tone marks. Fonts only with
> Bopomofo characters should not be too hard.

Sure, since we have conclusion here. I'll meet MOEdict project leader on Thursday to launch the project.

I'll also ask Ministry of Education if they care about this issue (sigh.

> Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com> 於 2015年2月3日 下午11:13 寫道:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Bobby Tung <bobbytung@wanderer.tw> wrote:
>> Hi Koji
>> 
>>> When you say "make tool to generate ruby marked HTML for authors",
>>> what kind of tag are you trying to generate? Nested ruby?
>> 
>> We have made a prototype tool for generate ruby with MOEDICT API :
>> 
>> https://www.moedict.tw/lab/ruby/
>> 
>> You can input Hanzi, it will automatically get possible pronunciations from MOE's data, let authors to choose right one.
>> 
>> Then generate mono-ruby, not nested.
> 
> This page does not position tone marks at all. I'd like to understand
> how you want to position tone marks.
> 
>>> I have no idea what the light tone marks are for and how they're used,
>>> so if you say it's better to change IME, Word, Pages, and all other
>>> software, ah...ok, it looks it's harder way to me, but that's your
>>> call.
>> 
>> I have tried several ways to find out how to let authors input Bopomofo ruby easier. Actually direct by Bopomofo IME is no a good idea.
>> 
>> From Word and Pages' function then export to HTML is ok, [1] But not perfect.
>> 
>> [1]: https://vimeo.com/118596187
> 
> 
> 
> I guess we're not on the same page, sorry if this is my English
> problem. Let me try to re-write as simple as possible.
> 
> 
> Does this make sense?
> 
> /koji
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