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Re: [css-ruby] Tone mark of bopomofo in ruby

From: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:09:45 +0900
Message-ID: <CAN9ydbVhiq0n5HMm8CzSCsCy3C+LDVa7sMkw5hLGvjGzsXp3Gw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bobby Tung <bobbytung@wanderer.tw>
Cc: Xidorn Quan <quanxunzhen@gmail.com>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, CJK discussion <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
I have no idea what the light tone marks are for and how they're used,
so if you say it's better to change IME, Word, Pages, and all other
software, ah...ok, it looks it's harder way to me, but that's your

When you say "make tool to generate ruby marked HTML for authors",
what kind of tag are you trying to generate? Nested ruby?

I recommend, instead, follow Richard's advice and invest to learn
AFDKO to build a public domain font. I only read the documentation and
haven't tried by myself, but building a font for second/third/fourth
tone marks does not look too difficult to me.

I'm still not confident on what to do with the light tone marks, but
for second/third/forth tone marks, building a font is the way to go.


On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Bobby Tung <bobbytung@wanderer.tw> wrote:
> I guess yes. But before that, Bobby, could you answer the question Richard
> raised in his post that, is the before placement just be a convention
> appropriate to dictionaries and phonetic annotations, or be the way the
> light tone ought to be handled in all cases?
> I think it's convention to dictionaries. But since we don't have any
> official rule, I'd like to make a deal let the light tone placed before.
> First we make tool to generate ruby marked HTML for author, then hope IMEs
> and word process software like Word and Pages to output in right order.
> In my experience to deal such thing with MOE Taiwan. It's not easy to give
> official statement but if there's any reference about Bopomofo. They will
> review and give feedback.
> WANDERER Bobby Tung
> Sent from my iPhone.
> Xidorn Quan <quanxunzhen@gmail.com> 於 2015年2月2日 上午10:14 寫道:
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, are we concluded that the reordering of the light tone marks is no
>> longer an issue?
> If light tone should be handled this way in all cases, then I think the
> answer would definitely be yes.
> - Xidorn
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