W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-style@w3.org > March 2013

Re: [css3-flexbox][css21] Make table cells/flex items/grid items paint atomically?

From: Sylvain Galineau <galineau@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:10:47 -0700
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
CC: Morten Stenshorne <mstensho@opera.com>
Message-ID: <CD7A1A7A.1024%galineau@adobe.com>

On 3/28/13 3:52 PM, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote:

>Back in Flexbox's LC, we had an LC issue from Morten
><http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/issues-lc-2012#issue-5> about
>flex items painting atomically (that is, establishing pseudo-stacking
>There was definitely a preference that they be atomic, but we couldn't
>find a strong enough reason to make them inconsistent with table
>cells, which paint non-atomically like blocks.
>We're wondering if we could just change table cells (and thus flex
>items and grid items) to paint atomically, though.
>As far as we can tell, the only way this behavior would be noticeable
>is a float from outside the table cell overlaps the table cell (via
>negative margins), which currently makes the float paint *above* the
>table cell's background, but *below* the table cell's contents.  This
>change would make it either paint above or below the entire table
>cell, depending on their relative tree positions.  This situation
>seems like it would be rather uncommon, and more atomicity in painting
>is pretty much always a good idea for implementations and easier for
>authors to understand.
>So the key question is, is this change web-compatible, and do we want
>to make it?
>~TJ and fantasai

<note>I wish we defined pseudo-stacking contexts. As far as I can tell
the connection between the term and the treatment of inline-block,
and floats in Appendix E is this mailing list. (Come to think of it, I'm
even 100% sure this is the full/correct definition).

Appendix E seems the ideal spot (CSS2.1 errata?)</note>
Received on Thursday, 28 March 2013 23:11:21 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Friday, 25 March 2022 10:08:27 UTC