- From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
- Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:37:43 -0400
- To: www-style@w3.org
On 2013-08-29 15:15 (GMT-0700) Tab Atkins Jr. composed: > ..."no one uses it" isn't a strong argument against a feature > either, but it is *a* valid argument. Some features are very > important, but also very niche - that doesn't reduce their necessity > for the audience that uses them... > ...I think it's quite reasonable > to conclude that we should go ahead and drop the feature. IMO, lack of usage for this is hugely due to lack of implementation. In the distant past, there was a time of really was only one browser. What it offered authors was all that mattered. Later, Mozilla made it two, and occasionally new things started to matter. Without digging deeply into the distant past, I'm guessing http://dbaron.org/css/ssui/ had a lot to do with why this was ever implemented at all, and that NIH played no small part in why, other than minor roles[1], it never got beyond Mozilla. This was all before WebKit even existed, much less morphed into an organ of the giant Google. The young WebKit didn't need it, because IE didn't have it. As WebKit grew beyond Mozilla, it turned into chicken & egg, neither needing it because the other giant didn't have it. Meanwhile, few people have been using it precisely because of its limited support. Why should any but a niche put effort into something only a small fraction of people would ever enjoy? Widespread use without IE and Web^HBlink support would be no small shock. Given what I know of the history, lack of use in this case seems more like a counter-argument to removal. Mozilla does have it. People do use it. Its existence makes a marketing case in favor of player #3 Mozilla, which removed would provide increased disincentive for users not to switch to Chrome, or not to switch back to IE, all the while trashing the work of authors who took the trouble to learn and provide it to web surfers. To me, http://dbaron.org/css/ssui/ makes no less sense now than when it was written. Support for enhanced power to the user should only be removed for compelling reason(s). I've seen not one such reason in this thread. [1] ISTR Opera working with http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-face-samplesM and my other pages with AltSS, which do work in the ancient Konqueror 3.5.1x I keep open 24/7, which still supports pt, in, cm, etc. according to desktop density rather than arbitrarily WRT a px unit. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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