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RE: [css-multicol] Border-Collapse

From: The Cyber Hymnal <cyberhymnal@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 23:42:07 +0000
Message-ID: <BAY175-W1909B13A5FCEE77405596BFCE0@phx.gbl>
To: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Here's one page where you can see the behavior. You may have to adjust your font size screen resolution, or some other parameters, but when the lyrics in the center box are showing one paragraph per column, notice that the space at the of the lyrics is larger than that at the bottom.

In this particular example, the "space" is caused by padding of the closing box, but I hope you get the idea.


The Cyber Hymnal™       <>< 

> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:31:07 +0200
> From: simon.sapin@exyr.org
> To: cyberhymnal@hotmail.com
> CC: www-style@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [css-multicol] Border-Collapse
> Le 07/04/2013 22:57, The Cyber Hymnal a écrit :
> > I wanted to give some input on a issue I don't see covered in the draft
> > W3 spec on multiple columns: Paragraph margins at bottom of the column.
> >
> > When a paragraph break occurs at the bottom of a column, the spec calls
> > for the user agent to apply the paragraph's standard bottom margin.
> > Unfortunately, this adds extra redundant space at the bottom of the
> > column. The problem is especially evident when the columns are in a
> > block with a margin, such with the hymn lyrics on our site(for examples
> > of our lyrics pages,click one of the links on
> > http://www.hymntime.com/tch/ttl/ttl-a.htm).
> >
> > Believe this problem this could be eliminated by creating a something
> > like border-collapse property for columns (as tables currently
> > have).Ihope it's not too late for this to make it way into the CSS3 spec.
> What is the part of the spec that calls for this behavior? I don’t find 
> it when searching for "margin" in css-multicol.
> On the other hand, the Fragmentation spec explicitly says that margins 
> should be ignored when there is an *unforced* (column) break between two 
> paragraphs:
> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-break/#break-margins
> Do you have an URL to a document showing the issue? What do you see 
> there (in which browser) and what would you expect instead?
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Simon Sapin
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