Re: [selectors4] :empty psuedo class and input fields

I'm don't really see how this differ from what Mounir posted. Since to
trigger :invalid or :valid you must add the required attribute to the input
field, which is not at all the same use case as what I'm trying to solve.
Se my earlier message:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Mar/0273.html

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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Schalk Neethling <sneethling@mozilla.com>wrote:

> Hey there Stefan,
>
> Maybe have a look at
> http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6887&to=6888
>
> Might not be exactly what you are looking for but useful nonetheless
>
> Kind Regards,
> Schalk Neethling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Wallin" <Stefan.W@festiz.com>
> To: www-style@w3.org
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:10:50 AM
> Subject: [selectors4] :empty psuedo class and input fields
>
> Hi all!
>
>
> This is my first attempt to contribute to the world of standards, so bare
> with me. If I'm not doing this the proper way, please tell me.
>
>
> My issue. I think the :empty pseudo class selector is not super intuitive
> when it comes to form elements such as input fields.
>
>
>
>
> Both Selectors 3 and Selectors 4 states the following:
>
>
> The :empty pseudo-class represents an element that has no children at all.
> In terms of the document tree, only element nodes and content nodes (such
> as DOM [DOM-LEVEL-3-CORE] text nodes, CDATA nodes, and entity references)
> whose data has a non-zero length must be considered as affecting emptiness;
> comments, processing instructions, and other nodes must not affect whether
> an element is considered empty or not.
>
>
> This strikes a chord with me, I'd really like to see the possibility to
> style input fields that do not fit to be classed as required but are still
> empty to be styled differently. Today this has to be done with DOM
> scripting, neither input[value=""] or input:empty works as I think it
> should work.
>
>
> input:empty always marks as true, regardless if the value attribute is
> empty or not.
>
>
> input[value=""] only detects initial status and not changes to the element
> later on in the page lifetime.
>
>
> Should one not be able to check the content of the DOM attr value
> dynamically through CSS?
>
>
> Humbly
>
> Stefan Wallin
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