W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-style@w3.org > February 2012

Re: [css3-regions][css3-gcpm] Thoughts on Plan A and Plan B

From: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:35:24 +0100
Message-ID: <20289.59820.579567.318637@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
To: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com>, David Hyatt <hyatt@apple.com>, "www-style@w3.org Style" <www-style@w3.org>
Brad Kemper wrote:

 > > I'm concerned about complexity, though. I fear that authors may face
 > > combinatorial explosions when trying to create page templates for
 > > various-sized devices, pages with one figure, two figures, pages with
 > > one flow and one figure, pages with two flows with one figure, two
 > > flows with three figures etc. etc.
 > There's probably no getting around that though, if authors want
 > that power. I can imagine doing Web page templates first, then
 > mobile, then tablet. Or maybe mobile first.

The alternative approach is to attach layout information to elements.

For example, instead of using page templates (or media queries) to say:

  if the page is wider than x, use y columns, else use z columns

one specifes the optimal width of columns on the element:

  article { columns: 12em }

Or, instead of picking a template that says:

  use me if you have an article with only text and pull-quote
  elements; display the first pull-quote between the first two columns,
  30% down from the top, and discard all the other pullquotes

one attaches information to each pull-quote element

  .pull-quote { 
     float me between column 1 and column 2, 
     30% down from the top,
     delete me if I crash into another float;

Page templates are top-down; element-based layouts are bottom-up.

Page templates are 5-year plans; element-based layouts are town

Page templates are grand castles waiting to be filled; element-based
layouts are organically grown villages. 

We may need both.

But I believe more designs than not can be achived with the
element-based approach. And I'm afraid of unfinished castles.

-h&kon (village guy)
Received on Monday, 20 February 2012 06:36:04 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Monday, 23 January 2023 02:14:11 UTC