- From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:36:22 +0900
- To: www-style@w3.org
On 06/03/2011 02:43 AM, Belov, Charles wrote: > fantasai wrote on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:26 PM >> >> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-speech/#lists >> >> # disc, circle, square >> # These list item styles are spoken as the equivalent word for >> # the shape, in the user's language. >> >> Reading out "square" in front of each list item seems imho ridiculous. >> These should map to a UA-defined (or user-defined) phrase or >> aural icon that is appropriate for bulleted lists. > > Actually, the issue to me is whether screen readers are helping the > listener keep track of the levels of bullets. That is, whether the > list is showing bullets, circles or squares depends on whether this > is a nested list. For a list like: > > [bullet] Cats. > [bullet] Dogs. > [circle] Lab. > [circle] Chihuahua. > [bullet] Birds. > > I believe the most useful output would be something that indicates > the transition between levels, e.g., > > "Begin bulleted list. Item, cats. Item, dogs. Begin second level. > Item, Lab. Item, Chihuahua. End second level. Item, birds." > > Not sure that is the most usable example, but that would be a > non-ridiculous alternative to reading "bullet," "circle," "square". > I suggest something like "Begin second level" rather than "Within > dogs" because "dogs" is short but, again for example, "In-Person > Customer Service Centers: These centers provide direct issuance > of fare cards." is not. Yes, I agree that this would be a reasonable rendering. I'd do it by inserting text at the beginning/end of a list element, though, not attaching special styling to the first list item element. :) ~fantasai
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