- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:40:31 -0000
- To: "'John Hudson'" <tiro@tiro.com>, "'fantasai'" <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Cc: <www-style@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <026001cb917e$d9dc2060$8d946120$@org>
For more on this (and perhaps a relevant question ;) see http://rishida.net/blog/?p=101 Note that in my example one of the emphasis marks is placed such that it straddles two characters (the one to the far right) in order to appear in the centre of a syllable. This is presumably would be much harder to do using Unicode characters embedded in the string itself – not to mention that issues surrounding the need for applications to ignore such characters for searching, sorting, etc, which still cause problems for even very common scripts such as Arabic. RI ============ Richard Ishida Internationalization Lead W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) http://www.w3.org/International/ http://rishida.net/ From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John Hudson Sent: 23 November 2010 15:10 To: fantasai Cc: www-style@w3.org Subject: Re: [css3-text] text-emphasis marks in Tibetan fantasai wrote: > I have two Tibetan books here (ISBN 7-105-03459-9 and ISBN 7-105-0004-2) > that use emphasis marks. They are placed below each "word" (where "word" > is the linguistic unit separated by tsek marks). > The two symbols I see are the filled circle and a little handwritten-style > "x". Was there a question regarding these? The filling of the circle may be an artefact of writing. An open circle Tibetan emphasis mark is encoded in Unicode as U+0F37. There is also U+0F35, an honorific emphasis mark, and assorted other below-base symbols in the Unicode Tibetan block. It may be that the x you see in the books is a variant of one or other of these (a spacing x mark is one of the Tibetan astrological signs). I presume you are wondering about how these marks are to be positioned relative to words rather than relative to base characters or grapheme clusters within words. I had the same question years ago regarding the Hebrew masoretic circle (U+05AF), which is positioned over the centre of a word. The answer in that case was that it was up to the author to insert the combining mark character in an appropriate place in the middle of the word, and because the mark might need to interact typographically with other above marks, e.g. be contextually offset left/right or even raised to avoid collision, one really didn't want to remove the mark from the glyph string and try to position is separately relative to the whole word. If the Tibetan emphasis marks to which you refer are in Unicode, and if they are encoded as combining marks, then I suspect the same would be true for them. JH _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3273 - Release Date: 11/22/10
Received on Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:41:06 UTC