- From: Paul Nelson (ATC) <paulnel@winse.microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:45:22 -0800
- To: "Bert Bos" <bert@w3.org>, "Jason CranfordTeague" <jason@brighteyemedia.com>
- CC: <www-style@w3.org>
We can make an .EOT for people to be able to use Gill Sans...of course if we have license to embed the font. ;-) Paul -----Original Message----- From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Bert Bos Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:47 AM To: Jason CranfordTeague Cc: www-style@w3.org Subject: Re: W3C CSS Home Redesign RFC On Tuesday 20 November 2007 16:31, Jason CranfordTeague wrote: > I'm collecting the feedback and working on wireframes that I hope to > have ready to show next week. I'll work up three different concepts > for the information structure to be considered. These will NOT be the > visual designs, though, only the page structure and IA. > > As for making it "pretty" a low priority over making it "usable", in > my a opinion usable has to be "pretty". The best design is one that you don't notice. On the other hand, given that these are pages about a style sheet language, I don't mind including some gimmick that people *do* notice. > > I do like the idea that we may want to consider making our home page > new CSS Zen garden for designers to play with. Any other votes for > that? There are some rules for W3C pages, a few on the style and some others on the content. The rules on the style are basically that the W3C logo must be in the top left corner and must be linked to the W3C home page and that the page must be accessible. There may be more fixed style elements later... if the W3C team can agree on them :-) (For example, our communications team is working on a common set of colors.) The content must include, apart from the link to the home page, also the name of the page's owner at the bottom and an indication of the age of the page. The main page must link to a page about the WG, which in turn must link to the WG's charter. Of course, all pages must be valid. And they should conform reasonably well to the guidelines for the mobile Web. There are also translations of the page into various languages that must be linked. (I've set up language negotiation for some pages, but not for the CSS overview page yet.) Traditionally, the style for the CSS pages has included something that most browsers didn't yet render correctly, as a kind of challenge to the browsers. Of course, in the browsers that render the style incorrectly, the page must still be readable. We don't want to lose readers. The CSS overview page and some other nearby pages are quite popular, so we shouldn't make them dynamic (no PHP, JSP or similar). Otherwise we will have to set up a caching proxy system and that means extra work, more maintenance and higher risk of failure. Some pages could be created by cron jobs, but that also means more maintenance work and more difficulties if somebody else than me has to edit the pages occasionally. Also, I'm the one editing the pages and there is little chance in the short or medium term that I will get any help with that. I'm quite happy to add news and other links, but that should not take more time than the time to type those links and save the file. (The Atom feed of the news items is automatically generated from the HTML. I will probably have to rewrite the script that does that, and that is OK, but the mark-up of the news items has to be such that it is *possible* to write such a script.) Making the pages into a Zen garden-like laboratory will, I expect, lead to many designs that are not good enough, that I will have to review, reject and send e-mail about, so I'd rather not do that. Still on the topic of maintenance: I don't know when we will find time and people again to redesign the pages, so the pages should be able to last for a couple of years at least. Better not to use the latest fashion, because it risks becoming oldfashioned in a short time. The semi-official font of W3C is Gill Sans. We use it on paper publications and business cards. It is not required to use it on Web pages (because not everybody has the font and embedded fonts don't work yet), but I like to do so anyway. W3C *does* use sans-serif on all pages. (I actually have a second reason for using Gill Sans and that is that it is also the font used in HÃ¥kon's and my book. So it is the CSS font in a way. And I like Gill's designs in general.) Bert -- Bert Bos ( W 3 C ) http://www.w3.org/ http://www.w3.org/people/bos W3C/ERCIM bert@w3.org 2004 Rt des Lucioles / BP 93 +33 (0)4 92 38 76 92 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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