- From: Craig Francis <craig@synergycms.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:22:15 +0100
- To: www-style@w3.org
Hi Patrick, Thank you very much, I did not realise that these were being developed. If anyone is interested the relevant links are at: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-role.html#col_Role http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-list.html#sec_11.2. Best Regards, Craig On 6 Jul 2006, at 00:33, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > Craig Francis wrote: > >> A fair point, but please can you explain which is the correct >> method of marking up the headers (first example given, under the >> heading "my problem"). > > There is no one true correct way of doing anything within the > limited vocabulary offered by HTML. Whether something is an H1 or > H2 will matter to search engines, but it's only one of many > "ingredients" that will influence a page's ranking and indexing. > >> Personally I think presentation effects interpretation, and the >> rules I propose are for changing that interpretation and not the >> structure of the page. > > Presentation may affect *subjective* interpretation, but meaning > should not be imparted solely via styling. A document needs to be > understandable without styles. > >> For example a <ul> of links is because they are an unordered list >> of links... its then presented to the user/device to show that its >> a navigation bar... but I suppose that interpretation could also >> be expressed in mark-up. Although how would you create all the >> HTML elements required for all the different data types (there >> could be allot)... I suppose they could be attributes (<ul >> type="nav">). > > This goes outside of the www-style list...the www-html list may be > a more appropriate forum for this. Suffice to say: HTML offers a > very limited set of elements. Beyond microformats or similar > attempts at cramming further semantics into the very generic > elements, or using linked resources (such as RDF files, for > instance), there's not much you can do - and even there, you're > relying on search engines actually caring about any of those > things. As an aside, I remember how at some point MAP was touted as > being a good markup structure for navigation etc... > You may want to look at the proposed developments in XHTML 2.0 > (specifically the "role" attribute and navigation list element) > > P > -- > Patrick H. Lauke > __________________________________________________________ > re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively > [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] > www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk > http://redux.deviantart.com > __________________________________________________________ > Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force > http://webstandards.org/ > __________________________________________________________
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