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Re: [css3-speech] Proposal: an aural box model

From: csant <csant@csant.info>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 15:24:28 +0200
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, www-style@w3.org
Message-ID: <opsb9gu2grd84skq@claudido-xp.oslo.opera.com>

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:41:01 +0200, fantasai  
<fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:

> Are you suggesting we define pause-collapsing like margin collapsing? :)
> IMO, the pause should really be outside the cue. If I'm pausing between
> list elements, I would pause after the ending cue of one and before the
> beginning cue of the next, and not so much between the cue and its  
> content.
> And pauses should collapse, because if I have markup like this:
>      <li>list item
>    </list>
> </section>
> <section>
>    <title>Title</title>
> ...
> I wouldn't want the pause-after of a
> list item to *concatenate* with the pause-after of the list itself /and/
> the pause-after of the section /and/ the pause-before of the next section
> /and/ the pause-before of the title. I'd just want to pause for the  
> maximum
> of all of them. Unless, of course, one of them has a cue.
> So, imho, the box model for aural css should be
>    pause-before
>    cue-before
>    cue-padding-before
>    content
>    cue-padding-after
>    cue-after
>    pause-after
> where cue-padding pads the cue so it doesn't run up against the edge of  
> the
> content (the same way padding in visual CSS pads the border so it  
> doesn't run
> up against the content).

Yes, this was my original thought - but I do not particularly like  
'cue-padding-before' and 'cue-padding-after': it is not clear that  
'cue-padding-before' actually is the padding after the cue-before... :)

'pause', IMHO, might indeed make more sense at the outer extremities of  
the aural 'box model' - which, as fantasai pointed out to me, actually is  
more of a 'line model', not being three-dimensional: aamof it is only  
one-dimensional; but to make things less complicated, and for  
compatibility with the visual box model, I would propose to stick to the  
convention of labeling this model an 'aural box model'.


"He is old". But she is wrong. It is not age; it is that a drop has  
fallen; another drop.
~~~ Virginia Woolf
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