- From: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:54:11 +0000
- To: Sampo Syreeni <decoy@iki.fi>
- Cc: www-style@w3.org
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 16:59, Sampo Syreeni wrote: | On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Zoltan Hawryluk wrote: | >Throughout the short history of the web, I have heard these comments, | > almost verbatim: | > | >1) Web pages don't need images. | >2) Web Designers shouldn't need to specify between serif and sans-serif | >fonts. | | [Snip] | | Looking at your list, it represents issues distinctly separate from the | scroll bar one. Basically, scroll bars are a user interface idiom while | most of what you describe have to do with either the style or the semantics | of the content itself. | | As far as I can see, the primary reason to keep scroll bars as they are | is that they are more a part of the OS user interface or windowing system | than of web content. Mutating them into something else via user | stylesheets, while perhaps good from an integration or aesthetic | standpoint, does cause noticeable degradation in the functionality | scrolling is meant to support. It affects the learning curve for web well, what about @media presentation, when there is no Window Manager present? (and when you still can have scrollbars for DIV elements, etc.) I would think about Kiosk and Embedded, while talking about scrollbars theming. While market for Kiosk & Embedded apps is still not emerged, there is a lot of developments coming in this area. BTW: in general, I agree with your arguments in @media Screen mode. But still, in my opinion, it's much better when *market* (and neither *developers* nor *users* on their own) determine wether to make scrollbars stylable or not. | browsing, something | non-Web-professionals and corporate training people are likely to have | something to say about. | [...] -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
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