- From: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:02:13 +0000
- To: Rijk van Geijtenbeek <rijk@iname.com>, www-style@w3.org
Hello, Rijk, hello Andy!
I answer in one mail, just not to make any duplicates.
On Thursday 25 October 2001 14:35, Rijk van Geijtenbeek wrote:
| Hello Vadim,
[...]
| >
| > So, statement that "Fixed positioning is supported by Opera and
| > Mozilla" is somewhat too strong. 'position: fixed' doesn't work on this
| > example in Opera and Mozilla.
| > In contrast, my Konqueror 2.2.1 displays this example pretty well.
| > See screenshot attached.
|
| [..]
|
| There are some strange (for me at least) whitespace characters in your
| code. After putting the file through HTML Tidy, it showed just like
| you screenshot in Opera 5.x. Finding the relevant difference between
| the tidied and the original file was quite hard, as I normally don't
| have to deal with binary....
| Some spaces were coded as A0 instead of 20.
I guess it can be some encoding problems (with mail transfer of attachement
or message itself)
I just copied code from mail by Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com> to KWrite,
added some lines and sent to you.
Håkon uses X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 19.34.4, I don't have experience
with Emacs and can't comment. There is also following note in message header:
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www19.w3.org id
TAA25430
may be, something happened when conversion was done.
HTML variants you sent to me work great in Opera5/Lin and Mozilla 0.9.1, so
problem was in some character. Both of them also work in Konqueror.
This just makes me wondering: why Mozilla and Opera are so sensetive to some
character(s)? I can imagine that this can cause some problems to users,
especially with non-Latin languages.
Ok, I know that Opera5 doesn't support Unicode, but Mozilla IMO should
overcome such problems, in any case. That's just my opinion, from user's and
developer's point of view.
Finally, I think that it's good that this fragment of code works in expected
way.
One more question: horizontal formatting.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
for position: fixed, horizontal margins are ignored.
So this code
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
is somewhat useless.
What can be done here to center it horizontally (use width:300px instead of
width:100% to compare)?
|
| This:
| text-align: center;
| is not the same as ...
| text-align: center;
|
| > | It's not true centering vertically since the height
| >
| > DIV's content
| >
| > | isn't taken into the calulation.
| >
| > Pardon?
|
| If there's only a single line in the DIV, it will still start at 40%
| height. Only when the content exactly fills the 20% height, you can
| call it truly centered vertically. The lack of a 'shrink-wrapping'
| display style without resorting to table-properties is one of the
| problems this thread discusses, IMO.
I see your point. Thank for clarification!
Anyway, this example solves one problem (real task!) which I mentioned
before - to make presentation in 2min. or 5 min. timeframe, after
brainstorming in small local group, without network/many computers, etc.
We were doing it on _one_ laptop, sitting 5 people around, in Austrian Alps -
so, probably now you see why I needed it ;-))
|
| Greetings,
| Rijk mailto:rijk@opera.com
|
| Mot du Jour:
| Buy Land Now. It's Not Being Made Any More.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Come here, there is a lot of unused land available. :-)
Cheers,
--
Vadim Plessky
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Received on Thursday, 25 October 2001 11:56:30 UTC