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RE: Structure and Style revisited

From: Scott Sauer - SSG <ScottSau@clientlogic.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:44:50 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB44B29115@site2s1>
To: "'Jelks Cabaniss'" <jelks@jelks.nu>
Cc: "'www-style@w3.org'" <www-style@w3.org>
I haven't been actually actively following this thread but stumbled across
this one. I was having the same thought.

To wit, presentation (CSS) and structure (HTML/XML) simply cannot be
completely and absolutely separated.  I think we've done the best we can, as
is, it separate, as much as possible, structure and presentation.

I don't, personally, have a good solution short of a "break line" rule being
added to CSS w/ some type of offset indicator.

In the end, I think "break line" are the grey of the division between
structure and presentation, break lines are both.

-Scott, ugh

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jelks Cabaniss [SMTP:jelks@jelks.nu]
> Sent:	Friday, February 26, 1999 11:59 AM
> To:	
> Subject:	RE: Structure and Style revisited
> > Jelks Cabaniss a écrit :
> >
> > > ... where "words" could take a single value or a list?  Maybe even
> have
> > > "letters(...)" as well as "words(...)"?
> >
> > Then we face the same old questions : what is a word, where does it
> start
> > and where does it end ? If you want to forge answers to that questions,
> > please do not forget that english is not the only language in the world
> > and that latin alphabet is not the only writing system in the world.
> Excellent point!  Using "words" is probably not a viable solution then
> (and
> there may even be situations where one would want to break *within*
> words).
> But the question remains: is a line-break Markup or Style?  I think it's
> Style
> because 1) it's for visual effect, and 2) it's media-dependent.  Forced
> line
> breaks (now days done with <br>) may look fine with screen and print, but
> how
> does that square with Braille, pagers, and other output devices?
> On the other hand, maybe it's neither Markup *nor* Style, but falls into
> another
> category -- perhaps like hyphenation ...  :)
> /Jelks
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