Re: Minutes from meeting 18th July 2003 --> different views 'section'

Hi

Here (attached) is the draft section/piece(s) on serving different
communities (see notes from meeting below) - as I said in the meeting it is
very rough and I haven't had time to work out how it might fit or be divided
up/integrated into the Use Case document, however it was felt better to get
it out 'as is' ASAP, prior to the plenary next week.

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: "Butler, Mark" <Mark_Butler@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
To: <www-rdf-dspace@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: Minutes from meeting 18th July 2003


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> --> You are now talking on #simile
> <AndyS> Hi Mark
> <AndyS> Where are you?
> <marbut> in pluto
> <AndyS> Hmm - already got connected at my desk.  I don't have a portable
> here today so I thought I'd IRC from my desktop
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> <marbut> in attendance: MacKenzie, John Ericsson, Andy Seaborne, John
> Gilbert, Paul Shabajee, Kevin Smathers
> <marbut> JE: has everyone read Mick's email about logistics?
> <marbut> MS: Is this a new use case that has been added by JE / MB?
> <marbut> JE: It's not only new, its a proposal for a big fat use case
> <marbut> Prior to discussing it I want to frame it
> <marbut> There is a lot in the prototype document because it is a draft. I
> hope today to explain what is there
> <marbut> MS: Looking at the original use case document, there was a load
of
> miscellaneous use cases. So this is meant to subsume this, not be in
> addition to this
> <marbut> JE: First topic is a review of the logistics for the plenary
> <marbut> see Mick's email
> <marbut> Any questions or problems?
> <marbut> MS: What about transportation?
> <marbut> JE: HP has arranged a bus on Tuesday. It looks like they made a
> mistake, it says Thursday
> <marbut> KS: Talking to Mick yesterday, I think I am taking a car and Mick
> is taking a car also.
> <marbut> MS: So you guys are getting Rob down there.
> <marbut> What's David Karger doing?
> <marbut> JE: That's a good question.
> <marbut> Shall we move on to the agenda for the plenary?
> <marbut> (See mail from Mick)
> <marbut> KS: Are these just open discussion, or do we want a facilitated
> discussion?
> <marbut> MS: I think this is important also, we've got lots here to get
> through
> <marbut> JE: I'll ask him what is plan is?
> <marbut> MS: I wonder if know if he is going to produce some sort of
> discussion paper for the structure of the project?
> <marbut> Is there going to be a proposal here or a brainstorming type of
> thing?
> <marbut> JE: Any other questions folks?
> <marbut> Session 3 after lunch is tuning the plan
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> <marbut> That's the scope of the two days, group dinner wednesday night
> <marbut> Mick is assuming early starts, and a fairly late finish on
> Wednesday.
> <marbut> AS: The 1500 deadline on the Thursday is a hard deadline.
> <marbut> JE: Yes that's noted.
> <marbut> So are we happy that we have covered that?
> <marbut> MS: We may want to do some thinking about thursday on wednesday
> evening
> <marbut> JE: Please, any comments let us know
> <marbut> The other thing we want to cover is proposed general use case I
> sent out the pdf on
> <marbut> We want to review any changes that have happened on the key
> documents, then an update on the hiring process
> <marbut> MS: Can we do the logistical stuff, first as I may need to leave
> early?
> <marbut> We have posted the position, I am talking to one person who might
> be a good fit on it, but no start until the fall, we need to get through
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> <marbut> the hiring process. But my understanding is that David Karger is
> waiting for Mick to help him.
> <marbut> KS: So it take two months with David?
> <marbut> MS: Don't know, there is some bureacratic process you need to go
> through
> <marbut> JE: Shall we go onto the lifecycle, or changes to the documents?
> <marbut> MB: The major change is the lifecycle section, so I suggest we
> review that
> <marbut> JE: On the document I sent out, its split into two parts: a
section
> for use cases, then a section on demonstrators
> <marbut> Policy management enforcement, ..... (see document)
> <marbut> These are the general capabilities
> <marbut> The premise here is there is agreement between the libraries and
> the users about how things are contributed.
> <marbut> Its the OAIS lifecycle, e.g. SIP to DIP to AIP (submission,
> dissemination and archival)
> <marbut> So there are 7 different and somewhat related use cases
> <marbut> So there is a conversation between the library community about
> this.
> <marbut> MS: I am a little bit concerned. This is a totally different use
> case, we haven't really thought about it,
> <marbut> going through the OAIS framework takes time, is this really
> something we want to spend time on at the plenary
> <marbut> JE: Yes, I've been concerned about the scale of this, and we need
> to talk about how to deal with this
> <marbut> The question is "is it important to SIMILE?"
> <marbut> JE: Anybody else got any concerns about this?
> <marbut> If you have specific points on this document, email me and the
> list?
> <marbut> JE: I understand Paul has added some stuff to learning object use
> case
> <marbut> PS: I've drafted a rough version of that I sent to Mick, the
> problem is it doesn't fit into the structure of the use case as is
> <marbut> MB: If Paul sends it to the list today, and I'll incorporate it
as
> soon as possible
> <marbut> JE: Rob is not on the call, I don't think there have been any
> changes since last week
> <marbut> No updates from Eric or David.
> <marbut> MS: They are not working on these documents, we need to make sure
> they read them before wednesday.
> <marbut> JE: Anything else to say?
> <marbut> KS: Lets wrap up.
> <marbut> JE: Anything else please email the list
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