Minutes from meeting 18th July 2003

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<AndyS> Hi Mark
<AndyS> Where are you?
<marbut> in pluto
<AndyS> Hmm - already got connected at my desk.  I don't have a portable
here today so I thought I'd IRC from my desktop
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<marbut> in attendance: MacKenzie, John Ericsson, Andy Seaborne, John
Gilbert, Paul Shabajee, Kevin Smathers
<marbut> JE: has everyone read Mick's email about logistics?
<marbut> MS: Is this a new use case that has been added by JE / MB?
<marbut> JE: It's not only new, its a proposal for a big fat use case
<marbut> Prior to discussing it I want to frame it
<marbut> There is a lot in the prototype document because it is a draft. I
hope today to explain what is there
<marbut> MS: Looking at the original use case document, there was a load of
miscellaneous use cases. So this is meant to subsume this, not be in
addition to this
<marbut> JE: First topic is a review of the logistics for the plenary
<marbut> see Mick's email
<marbut> Any questions or problems?
<marbut> MS: What about transportation?
<marbut> JE: HP has arranged a bus on Tuesday. It looks like they made a
mistake, it says Thursday
<marbut> KS: Talking to Mick yesterday, I think I am taking a car and Mick
is taking a car also.
<marbut> MS: So you guys are getting Rob down there. 
<marbut> What's David Karger doing?
<marbut> JE: That's a good question.
<marbut> Shall we move on to the agenda for the plenary?
<marbut> (See mail from Mick)
<marbut> KS: Are these just open discussion, or do we want a facilitated
discussion?
<marbut> MS: I think this is important also, we've got lots here to get
through
<marbut> JE: I'll ask him what is plan is?
<marbut> MS: I wonder if know if he is going to produce some sort of
discussion paper for the structure of the project?
<marbut> Is there going to be a proposal here or a brainstorming type of
thing?
<marbut> JE: Any other questions folks?
<marbut> Session 3 after lunch is tuning the plan
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<marbut> That's the scope of the two days, group dinner wednesday night
<marbut> Mick is assuming early starts, and a fairly late finish on
Wednesday. 
<marbut> AS: The 1500 deadline on the Thursday is a hard deadline.
<marbut> JE: Yes that's noted.
<marbut> So are we happy that we have covered that?
<marbut> MS: We may want to do some thinking about thursday on wednesday
evening
<marbut> JE: Please, any comments let us know
<marbut> The other thing we want to cover is proposed general use case I
sent out the pdf on
<marbut> We want to review any changes that have happened on the key
documents, then an update on the hiring process
<marbut> MS: Can we do the logistical stuff, first as I may need to leave
early?
<marbut> We have posted the position, I am talking to one person who might
be a good fit on it, but no start until the fall, we need to get through
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<marbut> the hiring process. But my understanding is that David Karger is
waiting for Mick to help him.
<marbut> KS: So it take two months with David?
<marbut> MS: Don't know, there is some bureacratic process you need to go
through
<marbut> JE: Shall we go onto the lifecycle, or changes to the documents?
<marbut> MB: The major change is the lifecycle section, so I suggest we
review that
<marbut> JE: On the document I sent out, its split into two parts: a section
for use cases, then a section on demonstrators
<marbut> Policy management enforcement, ..... (see document)
<marbut> These are the general capabilities
<marbut> The premise here is there is agreement between the libraries and
the users about how things are contributed.
<marbut> Its the OAIS lifecycle, e.g. SIP to DIP to AIP (submission,
dissemination and archival)
<marbut> So there are 7 different and somewhat related use cases
<marbut> So there is a conversation between the library community about
this. 
<marbut> MS: I am a little bit concerned. This is a totally different use
case, we haven't really thought about it,
<marbut> going through the OAIS framework takes time, is this really
something we want to spend time on at the plenary
<marbut> JE: Yes, I've been concerned about the scale of this, and we need
to talk about how to deal with this
<marbut> The question is "is it important to SIMILE?"
<marbut> JE: Anybody else got any concerns about this?
<marbut> If you have specific points on this document, email me and the
list?
<marbut> JE: I understand Paul has added some stuff to learning object use
case
<marbut> PS: I've drafted a rough version of that I sent to Mick, the
problem is it doesn't fit into the structure of the use case as is
<marbut> MB: If Paul sends it to the list today, and I'll incorporate it as
soon as possible
<marbut> JE: Rob is not on the call, I don't think there have been any
changes since last week
<marbut> No updates from Eric or David. 
<marbut> MS: They are not working on these documents, we need to make sure
they read them before wednesday.
<marbut> JE: Anything else to say?
<marbut> KS: Lets wrap up.
<marbut> JE: Anything else please email the list
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Received on Friday, 18 July 2003 12:45:42 UTC