- From: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:08:31 -0500
- To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Cc: www-rdf-comments@w3.org
>From: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
>Subject: Re: [closed] pfps-05 RDFS Closure Rules
>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:49:20 -0500
>
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>
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>> >I believe that it is still not appropriate because I believe that
>> >the intent in RDFS is that container membership properties can be applied
>> >to non-containers.
>>
>> That is not my understanding. I will refer this to the WG for
>> confirmation one way or the other. Can you document this intent?
>
>The recent messages about rdf:li in one of the RDF mailing lists should
>suffice. There are numerous other such messages.
>
>[...]
>
>> >Third, the closure rules are unable to infer any rdfs:domain or rdfs:range
>> >triples. It thus appears to me that the RDFS closure procedure is still
>> >incomplete as it will not include triples of the form
>> >
>> > rdf:_n rdfs:range xx .
>> >
>> >(for whatever xx is deemed to be appropriate).
>>
>> I do not think this is an error in the rules. The domains and ranges
>> for all the properties in the whole RDFS vocabulary are now included
>> in the axiomatic triples table explicitly, and no other domains and
>> range statements can be concluded using the RDFS semantic conditions
>> (except possibly by inference paths involving subPropertyOf, which
>> are covered by the rules).
>
>I don't see any domain or range triples for the rdf:_n properties in the
>current version (22) of this table.
Ah, yes, you are correct. Thank you for finally drawing my attention
to the relevant error.
OK, I have modified the statement (22a now) of the RDFS conditions so
that the ranges and domains of the rdf:_n properties are specified by
axiomatic triples rather than by conditions stated on the semantic
domains.
I believe this covers all the cases needed, unless you can see any others?
> > However, I have re-phrased the text immediately after the statement
>> of the lemma ('captured'/justify) and added a sentence to emphasize
>> that the entailment lemma as stated would not generalize to the case
>> where the strengthened domain and range conditions apply and the
>> modified rule set with rules 2a, 3a 4a' and 4b' are used.
>
>This is not about strengthened domain and range conditions. It is instead
>about the domains and ranges that are directly specified in the RDFS
>semantic conditions.
OK, but I take it that you do not disapprove of the changes
described, since they arise from a closely related point to the one
you were making.
>
>> >I note also that there are many changes to the RDF Semantics. These
>> >changes may have uncovered previously unnoticed issues and may themselves
>> >have issues.
>>
>> If you have any issues, please raise them.
>
>How should this be done?
Send me an email?
> > The changes are mostly
>> rearrangements rather than substantial changes
>
>I disagree.
>
Maybe it would help if you could indicate the changes which you
consider to be substantial, so that we can pay them closer attention.
(I will agree immediately that a large number of mistakes have been
corrected, many of them found by you.)
Pat
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