- From: Lynne Rosenthal <lynne.rosenthal@nist.gov>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:32:57 -0500
- To: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>, www-qa-wg@w3.org
Disregard my last email. I hit send by mistake, before I wrote anything. lynne At 04:49 PM 12/18/2003, Karl Dubost wrote: >QA Working Group Teleconference >Thursday, 18 December 2003 >-- >Scribe: Karl > >Attendees: >(PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems) >(dd) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon) >(KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, WG co-chair) >(DH) Dominique Hazaël-Massieux (W3C) >(LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO - WG co-chair) >(SM) Sandra Martinez (NIST) >(LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST - IG co-chair) >(MS) Mark Skall (NIST) >(DM) David Marston > >Regrets: >(MC) Martin Chamberlain (Microsoft) >(AT) Andrew Thackrah (Open Group) >(VV) Vanitha Venkatraman (Sun Microsystems) > >Absent: > >Summary of New Action Items: No new action item > > >Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/5.1.0.14.2.20031217094951.02ac0e80@localhost > >Previous Telcon Minutes: http://www.w3.org/mid/3FD52929.7070804@sun.com > >Minutes: > >2.) Any routine business > > * WWW 2004 > David Marston is giving an update on the WWW2004 conference. > > * anything about future telecon agendas? > Next telconf the 5th of January. > > * anyone answering Jeremy Caroll? > Abstract: Jeremy Carroll send a mail saying that > we were planing to have test materials in the > charter but he didn't find what he was looking > for. He has been decided to show him the Spec > Test Assertions that we are reviewing, and to > ask him clarification > > Log: > Lofton: Karl, Will you follow-up with this? > Mark: what is he asking exactly? > Karl: I will ask for clarifications. > Mark: Tell him that we have Test assertions. > Lofton: We pledged test materials at each major milestones of our > documents and we don't have. We will be seen reasonnable if we are > producing test materials for the CR. > Karl: I agree with Lofton, but we have to find the resources for > Test Materials. > Patrick: We have to first have test assertions. > Mark: We can probably create a crude TS. > Lofton: The TS could be a questionnaire and you fill it. > Mark: it can be the test assertions with another format and > qualifying words. We need more details on the conformance requirements to > automatically generate tests. > Lofton: We have said in the charter that we will produce the test > for each milestones. > Karl: Will the people be happy with making each of them Test cases? > Mark: Put it away until the end of the call. > Lofton: Should we put away that on 26th January > Karl: when will we finished Test Assertions? > Mark: At the end of this teleconf and/or in the next few days > Karl: So I propose that at this end of the telconf we take one > test assertion, and try to design a test case for it, and see how it works. > Lofton: What do we do for Ops GL? > Patrick: Let's do that after the experience of this today exercise. > >3.) TA list for SpecGL > > Abstract: Mark Skall has sent [2] the test assertions for Spec > Guidelines. The QA working group has started the review of these Test > Assertions to identify ambiguities and concordance with the conformance > requirements in the specifications. We haven't finished and will > continue on the next call the 22nd of Decembre. > >[Scribe has a very poor record of the discussion which were very >technical. Proposition of organization for the next call to help the scribe. > 1. CP Number > Someone announces the CP number of the Test Assertions > 2. Issue > He/She defines the issue with one clear sentence. > 3. Discussion > People discuss about it clearly > 4. Decision > The person express one or more resolutions that the > scribe can write clearly. >] > >[*** A lot of missed discussions ***] > > Number: CP 2.2 > Issue: Dependance of the execution 2.1 > Decision: to reword the Conformance Requirements and the test > assertions to s/in CP 2.1/in the specification/ > > Number: CP 2.3: > Issue: Missing the second MUST of the conformance req. > Decision: Reformulate the test assertion accordingly to the > missing MUST > > Number: CP 2.4 > Issue: other dimensions seems too general and might confuse people. > Decision: s/other dimensions/other dimensions that are used/ > > >Karl: I recommend we start now the work of Test Assertions and Test >Materials for the Test GL to avoid what we are doing now, that could have >been achieved earlier. > >4.) Adjourn > >Next Telconf: Monday 22th. > Only dedicated to this discussion. > > >-- >Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/ >W3C Conformance Manager >*** Be Strict To Be Cool *** > >
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