- From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:49:07 -0500
- To: www-qa-wg@w3.org
QA Working Group Teleconference Thursday, 18 December 2003 -- Scribe: Karl Attendees: (PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems) (dd) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon) (KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, WG co-chair) (DH) Dominique Hazaël-Massieux (W3C) (LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO - WG co-chair) (SM) Sandra Martinez (NIST) (LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST - IG co-chair) (MS) Mark Skall (NIST) (DM) David Marston Regrets: (MC) Martin Chamberlain (Microsoft) (AT) Andrew Thackrah (Open Group) (VV) Vanitha Venkatraman (Sun Microsystems) Absent: Summary of New Action Items: No new action item Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/5.1.0.14.2.20031217094951.02ac0e80@localhost Previous Telcon Minutes: http://www.w3.org/mid/3FD52929.7070804@sun.com Minutes: 2.) Any routine business * WWW 2004 David Marston is giving an update on the WWW2004 conference. * anything about future telecon agendas? Next telconf the 5th of January. * anyone answering Jeremy Caroll? Abstract: Jeremy Carroll send a mail saying that we were planing to have test materials in the charter but he didn't find what he was looking for. He has been decided to show him the Spec Test Assertions that we are reviewing, and to ask him clarification Log: Lofton: Karl, Will you follow-up with this? Mark: what is he asking exactly? Karl: I will ask for clarifications. Mark: Tell him that we have Test assertions. Lofton: We pledged test materials at each major milestones of our documents and we don't have. We will be seen reasonnable if we are producing test materials for the CR. Karl: I agree with Lofton, but we have to find the resources for Test Materials. Patrick: We have to first have test assertions. Mark: We can probably create a crude TS. Lofton: The TS could be a questionnaire and you fill it. Mark: it can be the test assertions with another format and qualifying words. We need more details on the conformance requirements to automatically generate tests. Lofton: We have said in the charter that we will produce the test for each milestones. Karl: Will the people be happy with making each of them Test cases? Mark: Put it away until the end of the call. Lofton: Should we put away that on 26th January Karl: when will we finished Test Assertions? Mark: At the end of this teleconf and/or in the next few days Karl: So I propose that at this end of the telconf we take one test assertion, and try to design a test case for it, and see how it works. Lofton: What do we do for Ops GL? Patrick: Let's do that after the experience of this today exercise. 3.) TA list for SpecGL Abstract: Mark Skall has sent [2] the test assertions for Spec Guidelines. The QA working group has started the review of these Test Assertions to identify ambiguities and concordance with the conformance requirements in the specifications. We haven't finished and will continue on the next call the 22nd of Decembre. [Scribe has a very poor record of the discussion which were very technical. Proposition of organization for the next call to help the scribe. 1. CP Number Someone announces the CP number of the Test Assertions 2. Issue He/She defines the issue with one clear sentence. 3. Discussion People discuss about it clearly 4. Decision The person express one or more resolutions that the scribe can write clearly. ] [*** A lot of missed discussions ***] Number: CP 2.2 Issue: Dependance of the execution 2.1 Decision: to reword the Conformance Requirements and the test assertions to s/in CP 2.1/in the specification/ Number: CP 2.3: Issue: Missing the second MUST of the conformance req. Decision: Reformulate the test assertion accordingly to the missing MUST Number: CP 2.4 Issue: other dimensions seems too general and might confuse people. Decision: s/other dimensions/other dimensions that are used/ Karl: I recommend we start now the work of Test Assertions and Test Materials for the Test GL to avoid what we are doing now, that could have been achieved earlier. 4.) Adjourn Next Telconf: Monday 22th. Only dedicated to this discussion. -- Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/ W3C Conformance Manager *** Be Strict To Be Cool ***
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