- From: Neil Soiffer <soiffer@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 13:20:19 -0700
- To: "www-math@w3.org" <www-math@w3.org>
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Attendees: - David Carlisle - Christopher Comninel - Sam Dooley - David Farmer - Deyan Ginev - Patrick Ion - Louis Maher - Bruce Miller - Murray Sargent - Neil Soiffer - Steve Noble - Cary Supalo - Bert Bos - Paul Libbrecht - Brian Kardell Regrets: - Daniel O'Mahony - Moritz Schubotz Announcements / UpdatesPresentations by Bruce and Sam on their intent ideas Bruce's material: https://mathml-refresh.github.io/discussion-papers/semantics-mini Deyan's demo page (with some options selected) mostly reflects Bruce's proposal: https://dginev.github.io/tiny-mathml-a11y-demo/ Sam's material: https://samdooley.github.io/mathml-docs/intent2cmml/intent.html BM: reviewed his paper. LM: Said that Sam used the "apply" attribute where Bruce did not. BM: Sam is thinking about generating content MathML. Bruce says "apply" is implied in his 's method. PL: In Deyan's demo, instead of apply, he got times signs. DG: LaTeX ML assumes that things it can't understand are interpreted as multiplications; therefore, PL saw many times signs when he ran the demo. BM: His proposal meets the technical requirements for disambiguation and accessibility. He is not sure if it fits the market's requirements--will people implement his method? BM: Discussed literals and selectors. BM: A literal is a keyword to be gotten from a dictionary, or it's a literal phrase to be spoken as is. BM: Defaulting is a separate discussion. Hopefully, it uses the same language as intent. BM: The defaulting process would not apply to things that had explicit intents. BM: Intent must have something that says that defaulting does not apply. NS: How do you know when defaulting starts? BM: If intent points to a child, then the child is invisible to the defaulting system. BM: When choosing names, one should consider names that people can remember. Do you put in helping words such as "of" as in "the derivative of"? BM: Showed his method of handling the case where the integration variable was in a numerator. SD: Started reviewing his paper. SD: said he had concentrated on the issue of disambiguation for presentation MathML. SD: Said that he and BM agreed on many things. SD: Showed a prototype translator which turns intent MathML into content MathML. This translator is not complete, and SD did not share its link. SD: showed a demonstration of how this process worked to convert a presentation MathML example of the quadratic equation into content MathML. SD: showed several examples that were in his paper. SD: showed his integral example where the integration variable was in the numerator. SD: We have not yet had a dictionary discussion. Also, we have not had a discussion on how we produce natural language.

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