[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2017-12-07

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            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

07 Dec 2017

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Dec/0011.html

Attendees

    Present
           Peter, addison, Fuqiao, Bert, JcK, David, andrewc, r12a

    Regrets
           Steve

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           Addison Phillips

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Agenda
          2. [5]Action Items
          3. [6]Info Share
          4. [7]Radar
          5. [8]Input mode changes in HTML
          6. [9]Charmod-Norm
          7. [10]String-Meta
          8. [11]Holidays
          9. [12]AOB?
      * [13]Summary of Action Items
      * [14]Summary of Resolutions
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    trackbot, prepare teleconference

    <scribe> ScribeNick: addison

    <scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips

Agenda

Action Items

    [15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-679?

    <trackbot> action-679 -- Richard Ishida to Send
    inline-bidi-markup for wide review -- due 2017-11-13 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/679

      [16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/679

    close action-679

    <trackbot> Closed action-679.

    action-689?

    <trackbot> action-689 -- Addison Phillips to Add mustard to
    string-meta bp section -- due 2017-12-07 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/689

      [17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/689

    close action-689

    <trackbot> Closed action-689.

Info Share

    welcoming new member

    Peter: have done some i18n work at ietf
    ... was an AD at ietf, worked on IRI, worked on PRECIS
    ... IDNA
    ... mostly worked on identifier work
    ... not so much running text
    ... just joined Mozilla
    ... have support to do this kind of work and happy to help

    <r12a> [18]https://www.w3.org/International/sponsorship/

      [18] https://www.w3.org/International/sponsorship/

    richard: mentioned last week, but Bert has been busy cleaning
    up
    ... the sponsorship program (link above)
    ... nice and shiny

    <r12a>
    [19]https://www.w3.org/International/sponsorship/print.pdf

      [19] https://www.w3.org/International/sponsorship/print.pdf

Radar

    [20]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

      [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

    richard: just published updated CR for writing-modes-3
    ... hope that goes to rec soon
    ... fantasai trying to move text-decoration forward
    ... go through stuff we have
    ... move to comment resolution

    <scribe> ACTION: addison to include comment resolution for
    text-decoration next week and remind all to review issues

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-690 - Include comment resolution for
    text-decoration next week and remind all to review issues [on
    Addison Phillips - due 2017-12-14].

    [21]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

      [21] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

    discussion of new uax29, will help conjuncts in devanagari

    scribe: the new one will select everything joined by viramas
    ... good in general for Deva, but may be an issue for visual
    virama
    ... rather than conjunct
    ... also what happens in south indian scripts like Tamil
    ... where conjuncts aren't forming
    ... can't tell, but maybe can break in a consonent cluster
    ... only getting western replies so far

    <r12a> [22]https://github.com/w3c/ilreq/issues/31

      [22] https://github.com/w3c/ilreq/issues/31

    addison: break lines is diff than truncate

    <r12a>
    [23]https://github.com/w3c/ilreq/issues/31#issuecomment-3495897
    52

      [23] https://github.com/w3c/ilreq/issues/31#issuecomment-349589752

    richard: read link first
    ... then issue
    ... did implement simplified html for authoring guidelines
    checklist

    <r12a>
    [24]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/inline-bidi-marku
    p/index.en

      [24] 
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/inline-bidi-markup/index.en

    richard: inline bidi article out for wide review until tuesday
    ... please look
    ... simplified a great deal from before
    ... added what browsers do/don't support in margin
    ... rewrote live examples
    ... send tweet, sent message on winter (www-international@)
    ... no comments so far
    ... lots of retweets/likes

    <xfq> just fyi - the language matrix now has a shorter URL:
    w3.org/language-matrix

Input mode changes in HTML

    <r12a>
    [25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2017
    OctDec/0113.html

      [25] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2017OctDec/0113.html

    [26]https://whatpr.org/html/3260/ede1de1...a110d0f/interaction.
    html#input-modalities:-the-inputmode-attribute

      [26] 
https://whatpr.org/html/3260/ede1de1...a110d0f/interaction.html#input-modalities:-the-inputmode-attribute

    [27]https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/3260

      [27] https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/3260

    richard: if you look at first link

    <r12a> old version:
    [28]https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/form-control-infrast
    ructure.html#input-modalities:-the-inputmode-attribute

      [28] 
https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/form-control-infrastructure.html#input-modalities:-the-inputmode-attribute

    richard: gone is latin vs. kana
    ... gone is upper/lower
    ... autocapitalize to replace
    ... that sends a hint to mobile device keyboard

    addison: affects soft keyboards

    richard: only affects mobile devices
    ... modeled around apple and android

    andrewc: numeric shaping
    ... depending on keyboard can have huge effects

    richard: have a look at thread

    <David> Would an IMe be considered a soft keyboard?

Charmod-Norm

    [29]http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#characterEscapes

      [29] http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#characterEscapes

    [30]http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#conformance

      [30] http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#conformance

    <r12a>
    [31]http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#x2-3-identical-app
    earing-characters-and-the-limitations-of-normalization

      [31] 
http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/#x2-3-identical-appearing-characters-and-the-limitations-of-normalization

    <stpeter> :-)

String-Meta

    [32]https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/#

      [32] https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/

Holidays

    richard: will be off starting the 18th for 3 weeks

    definitely not 28th

    dubious that we'll meet 21st

AOB?

    <stpeter> I won’t be able to join next week or January 4th.

    <r12a> previous minutes
    [33]https://www.w3.org/2017/11/30-i18n-minutes.html

      [33] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/30-i18n-minutes.html

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: addison to include comment resolution for
    text-decoration next week and remind all to review issues

Summary of Resolutions

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