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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
19 Nov 2015
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Nov/0017.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/19-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Steve, JcK, felix(for_first_30_minutes), koji
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda?
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]Radar and Project Review
5. [9]Encoding and Encoding Tests
6. [10]WebVTT Status
7. [11]presentation-api
8. [12]CharMod
9. [13]AOB?
* [14]Summary of Action Items
* [15]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda?
Action Items
<r12a> [16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-455?
<trackbot> action-455 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to
fantasai saying we'll send style info along by next week -- due
2015-07-30 -- CLOSED
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/455
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/455
action-445?
<trackbot> action-445 -- Addison Phillips to Check out using a
subsetting web font for example chars -- due 2015-06-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/445
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/445
close action-445
<trackbot> Closed action-445.
action-461?
<trackbot> action-461 -- Richard Ishida to Re-read issue-80 and
evaluate whether to reopen as a github issue or not -- due
2015-09-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/461
[19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/461
action-476?
<trackbot> action-476 -- Addison Phillips to Write back to
media capture saying that we'll continue to work on problem but
they can publish in the meantime -- due 2015-10-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/476
[20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/476
close action-476
<trackbot> Closed action-476.
close action-480
<trackbot> Closed action-480.
close action-481
<trackbot> Closed action-481.
Info Share
Radar and Project Review
[21]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[21] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[22]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
[22] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
split out Tibetan LR
<r12a> [23]http://w3c.github.io/tlreq/
[23] http://w3c.github.io/tlreq/
richard: rewritten that document
... waiting for a chinese translation
... can do fwpd then
ruchard: ruby
... there's some discussion between implementers and anne vk
... implementation of items such as rb and rbc
... vary across browsers
... whatwg didn't help that much
... convergence on html5 definition
... sufficient convergence for webvtt?
richard: bidi
... continuing to talk to implementers about @dir isolation
... talked to msft
... talked to miles from safari
... koji says chrome will implement if tests exist and other
browsers do
... just submitted some tests to the ttwf suite
... anyone to review?
... key item is that bidi expert needed to review
addison: was that your email to winter?
richard: yes
... some tests for rli control and its friends
... anyyone could do it
... look up how reviews are done?
IDN
richard: wiating for david to suggest repo name
<scribe> ACTION: richard: follow up with David S. to get name
for repo and set up said repo [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/19-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-482 - Follow up with david s. to get
name for repo and set up said repo [on Richard Ishida - due
2015-11-26].
Encoding and Encoding Tests
[25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015N
ov/0014.html
[25]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Nov/0014.html
richard: created a whole bunch more tests
<r12a>
[26]http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/encoding
-dbl-byte
[26]
http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/encoding-dbl-byte
richard: see above
... big5, euc-jp, euc-kr
... results
... two more to do
... ISO-2022
... and gb18030
... 18030 has a gbk flag
... just write two tests??
... have tests for encoding/decoding that test the repertoires
... what became clear to me was "big5" wasn't what was formally
defined
... only those codepoints handled by web browsers
... are some big differences
... japanese euc
... can only encode half of the characters you can decode
jis 0208 and jis 0212
scribe: a "good first step" to get browsers doing the same
thing
richard: need tests to tests for what happens when things go
wrong
jck: kermit did this awhile ago... doyou know frank dacruz
talk about encoding spec in two weeks
WebVTT Status
richard: went through the issues
... at tpac with simon
... and again this week
... here's the link
<r12a>
[27]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/openissues/#webvtt1
[27] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/openissues/#webvtt1
richard: pulled in some (t) issues that they came up with
... and the (c) issues I think we can close
<r12a> [28]http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/436
[28] http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/436
<scribe> ACTION: addison: review close marked webvtt issues and
close if satisfied [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/19-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-483 - Review close marked webvtt
issues and close if satisfied [on Addison Phillips - due
2015-11-26].
richard: discussion of ruby model incomplete
... rb wanted?
... simon mentioned that whatwg doesn't have it
... had a look and don't think it's an issue for rb
... understand not doing rtc or rbrbrbrtrtrt model
addison: I agree with pushing back
presentation-api
<r12a> [30]https://github.com/w3c/presentation-api/issues/218
[30] https://github.com/w3c/presentation-api/issues/218
richard: some concern because different encodings
... might look weird
... problem might be ideographic characters across languages
... talked last week, wrote back
... not ideal presentation
... associate language with content when sent
... and that can be used to present
... another person said use accept-language
... but that's really just for saying what you prefer
... not a mechanism for addressing font selection and such
... wrong tool for the job
addison: it's a lot more work to do language negotation using
a-l and such
... when what we're really doing is allowing a device to send
the language for a given string
... so that it can be displayed as intended
... that's really much simpler
CharMod
addison: closed almost all open issues
... take a look
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: review close marked webvtt issues and
close if satisfied [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/19-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: follow up with David S. to get name for
repo and set up said repo [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/19-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
Summary of Resolutions
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