- From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
- Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:32:50 -0800
- To: "Jonathan Rosenne" <rosennej@qsm.co.il>
- Cc: www-international@w3.org, w3c-i18n-ig <w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <30b660a20703090932q22bf2c8dm6ac1d338fa61d115@mail.gmail.com>
Side issue: Interestingly, we've found that the ltr/rtl options are insufficient. What people want in many cases in input fields is the "default" algorithm, whereby even on a generally rtl page, the field becomes ltr if the first strong character is ltr. Right now we are simulating that with JavaScript (but it is a pain to do so). Mark On 3/9/07, Jonathan Rosenne <rosennej@qsm.co.il> wrote: > > This was a strange remark. For Arabic or Hebrew texts, little if any bidi > markup is needed. dir="rtl" on the HTML will do the work. As the referenced > article says, it is only needed for mixed content. And then there is no > difference between LTR text contained in an RTL document and RTL text > contained in an LTR document. > > Jony > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* www-international-request@w3.org [mailto: > www-international-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ishida > *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2007 4:11 PM > *To:* 'Rotan Hanrahan' > *Cc:* www-international@w3.org > *Subject:* RE: Invalid relationship between bandwidth and spoken language > > Fixed. > > RI > > ============ > Richard Ishida > Internationalization Lead > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) > > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ > http://www.w3.org/International/ > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/ > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* www-international-request@w3.org [mailto: > www-international-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Rotan Hanrahan > *Sent:* 09 March 2007 12:59 > *To:* www-international@w3.org > *Subject:* Invalid relationship between bandwidth and spoken language > > A colleague of mine, working in an Arabic speaking region of the world > has pointed out a comment [1] regarding the use of bidi markup, in which > it is stated: > > "Removing them will significantly simplify the document, and reduce > bandwidth - which may be an important consideration in countries where > Arabic is spoken." > > This line seems to suggest that there is an association between lack of > adequate network bandwidth and the speaking of Arabic, an implication I am > sure was not intended. Firstly, the effect of bidi markup on bandwidth > consumption is negligible compared to the accompanying graphics. Secondly, any > saving on payload size should be seen as universally beneficial, not just > for countries characterised by the language they speak. > > I suggest that the closing part of that statement ("in countries where > Arabic is spoken") be removed from future revisions, as it is unnecessary > and open to misinterpretation. > > ---Rotan. > > [1] * > http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-bidi.html#ri20030726.132037950 > *<http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-bidi.html#ri20030726.132037950> > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 08/03/2007 > 10:58 > > -- Mark
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