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Re: Three design-related (HTML or CSS) elements for your consideration

From: Rob Larsen <rob@drunkenfist.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:57:08 -0500
Message-ID: <014d01c2bcd0$49cd83a0$450fa8c0@WRLARSEN>
To: "www-html" <www-html@w3.org>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christoph Päper" <christoph.paeper@tu-clausthal.de>
To: "Rob Larsen" <rob@drunkenfist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Three design-related (HTML or CSS) elements for your

> Rob Larsen:
> > From: "Christoph Päper" <christoph.paeper@tu-clausthal.de>
> >>
> >> The importance of looks is overestimated. Nevertheless that's what
> >> W3C introduced CSS for.
> >
> > Yes. The importance of looks on the web is, in fact, overestimated.
> > That, however, is not the point.
> Neither mine, read the more important second sentence again. CSS is *much*
> more powerful than presentational HTML.

Yes CSS rawks.

 But... I'm not sure where I was defending presentational HTML. I was trying
to explain that tossing some understanding in the direction of people in the
trenches that might not fully grasp what the w3c is up to might be a good
thing. Listening to their concerns might be helpful too. So, I can't really
continue with this particular strand. We are having two separate
conversations, they just happen to intersect.  I'll repost the bit you cut
out to get to this bonne mot since nothing has changed since originally
wrote it

"Millions of designers, marketing execs, CEOs and the like are under the
impression that looks are supremely important. We can wish that idea away,
but it will (unfortunately) still be there. The w3c and its evangelists
would do well to remember that idea (unless, of course, widespread
acceptance of the w3c's work is unimportant.)

To most people's minds it is not "bad" to think about the way a site looks.
To many people the way a site looks is actually of overriding importance.
Treating people that think that way like second class citizens is

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