- From: Warren Steel <mudws@mail.olemiss.edu>
- Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:46:04 -0500
- To: Toby Speight <tms@ansa.co.uk>
- Cc: www-html@w3.org
Toby Speight wrote: > Did the original FIG provide captions, grouping, and floating > placement (none of which WD-object supports, AFAIR)? Do we still need > something to provide these? Good questions, both. You can read all about <FIG> at http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/MarkUp/html3/figures.html It's pretty well supported in UdiWWW. It's true that <FIG> is a stand-alone block element, with its own <CAPTION> and <CREDIT> sub-elements, but it also allows text flow like an inline image. It also has multiple overlays and client-side image maps. For reasons better left unsaid, it was never implemented in any version of NCSA Mosaic or Netscape. Still, it is one of the coolest ideas in the 3.0 draft: it impressed everyone who saw it, and fulfilled a specific need in traditional authorship--the need to insert figures and captions in running text. To my knowledge, nothing since has fulfilled that role so simply and elegantly, and nothing else degrades so gracefully on non-graphic or non- supporting browsers. The <OBJECT> draft http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/TR/WD-object is a valiant attempt to recover some of the function and flexibility of <FIG>, as well as create a hook for embedded multimedia objects. It remains to be seen whether it can fulfil both functions. The new element appears to allow fully marked-up alternative text; it includes SHAPE client-side image-maps, perhaps *better* than FIG or MAP (though it includes the latter for backward compatibility). It omits OVERLAY, which is probably no great loss for HTML. It applies enormous ingenuity to the problem of substituting alternative objects for unsupported datatypes (animations -> images -> text). But HTML still needs a block element with Captions and Credits for a broad spectrum of writing, from scientific reports to creative fiction! If this is truly possible in the new draft, I'd like to see it explained. Otherwise, I'd like to see the CAPTION and CREDIT restored to the <OBJECT> draft, for text that will appear *with* the embedded image or animation, not instead of it. -- Warren Steel mudws@mail.olemiss.edu Department of Music University of Mississippi URL: http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~mudws/
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