- From: David Landwehr <david.landwehr@solidapp.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:47:10 +0100
- To: "Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE)" <Roman.Huditsch@lexisnexis.at>
- Cc: www-forms@w3.org, Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer <schnitz@demaledetti.net>
Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE) wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Thanks for the very helpful input.
> I added the missing two elements for the upload control.
> Maybe it would be a good idea to change the "upload" section at
> "XForms for HTML Authors"[1], too.
>
Yes maybe the author should change this.
> Thanks for the hint about the javascript part. I didn't know that the action
> gets triggered when the document is parsed.
> I just decided to transform it that way, because it was the first mentioned
> alternative at [2].
> Is there an other way to transform this javascript part so that every implementation can work with it
> (except leaving such javascript buttons as they are)?
> If not, I will have to do it with the event listener ;)
> Thanks a lot!
>
There is no way you can get script interaction to work across
implementations since some standardization work seems to be lacking in
this area. I'm not sure what you should do for javascript on the
triggers, leaving them seems like a good alternative but maybe someone
else has an idea?
Best regards,
David
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: David Landwehr [mailto:david.landwehr@solidapp.com]
>> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Februar 2006 09:52
>> An: Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE)
>> Cc: www-forms@w3.org; Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer
>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Stylesheet for Transforming HTML
>> forms to XForms
>>
>> Hi Roman,
>>
>> The file_input.xhtml do not generate exactly what it should.
>> The upload should look like:
>> <xforms:upload mediatype="text/*" style="width: 240px" ref="file">
>> <xforms:label></xforms:label>
>> <xforms:filename ref="@filename"/>
>> <xforms:mediatype ref="@mediatype"/>
>> </xforms:upload>
>>
>> You have to bind the filename and mediatype. I apologize that
>> I didn't answer your question about this clearly in the first place.
>>
>> For button.xhtml the xhtml:script tag does not work as you
>> expect. The construction you have will execute the script
>> when the document is parsed for xhtml 1.0 (not sure what
>> happens in xhtml 2.0). Another way of specifying the
>> functionality would be to use the event listener element:
>> <ev:listener event="DOMActivate"
>> handler="javascript:self.location.href='http://www.w3.org'"/>, however
>> javascript: might not work in all implementations :(
>>
>> Best regards,
>> David
>>
>> Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> *arg* you're right. I just copied the email datatype
>>>
>> definition from
>>
>>> the Xforms 1.1 WD and forgot to change the Schema prefexi.
>>>
>> Should do such things so early in the morning...
>>
>>> Attached is the corrected version.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> wbr,
>>> Roman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: David Landwehr [mailto:david.landwehr@solidapp.com]
>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 27. Februar 2006 09:26
>>>> An: Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE)
>>>> Cc: www-forms@w3.org; Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer
>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Stylesheet for Transforming HTML
>>>>
>> forms to XForms
>>
>>>> And good morning to you :)
>>>>
>>>> It seems that the prefix xsd: is not bound for:
>>>> <xs:simpleType name="email">
>>>> <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
>>>> <xsd:pattern
>>>> value="[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{-~]+(\.[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+
>>>> \-/=\?\^_`\{-~]+)*@[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{-~]+(\.[A-Za-
>>>> z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{-~]+)*"/>
>>>>
>>>> </xs:restriction>
>>>> </xs:simpleType>
>>>>
>>>> I think you just need to rename the pattern xsd: to xs:
>>>>
>>>> When that is done I get an error which says that ~ is not a valid
>>>> character. That is caused by ATV, e.g. the { in the
>>>>
>> datatype has to
>>
>>>> be escaped with {{ like:
>>>> <xs:pattern
>>>> value="[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+(\.[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\
>>>> +\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+)*@[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+(\.[A-
>>>> Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+)*"/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So that email type should look like:
>>>> <xs:simpleType name="email">
>>>> <xs:restriction base="xs:string">
>>>> <xs:pattern
>>>> value="[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+(\.[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\
>>>> +\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+)*@[A-Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+(\.[A-
>>>> Za-z0-9!#-'\*\+\-/=\?\^_`\{{-~]+)*"/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> </xs:restriction>
>>>> </xs:simpleType>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't look at the output yet.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good morning everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Davids feedback I was able to fix some bugs in my
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> stylesheet and improve my test cases a bit, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Attached is a newer, stable version of my stylesheet.
>>>>> Any feeback is heartily welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> wbr,
>>>>> Roman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: David Landwehr [mailto:david.landwehr@solidapp.com]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Februar 2006 07:28
>>>>>> An: Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE)
>>>>>> Cc: www-forms@w3.org
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Stylesheet for Transforming HTML forms to XForms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again really good work, this is fun :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some comments about the transformations:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) in application_from.xhtml you make a xsi:type="xs:email". Two
>>>>>> problems: xs is not a defined prefix so I cannot see
>>>>>>
>> what the type
>>
>>>>>> it is intended to be (a schema datatype or a xforms
>>>>>>
>> datatype). The
>>
>>>>>> other problem is that there is no xs:email datatype
>>>>>>
>> define in XML
>>
>>>>>> Schema 1.0 or in XForms 1.0. However I like the idea of
>>>>>>
>> assign such
>>
>>>>>> a datatype (and indeed there is one in XForms 1.1) so
>>>>>>
>> maybe you can
>>
>>>>>> link you own schema and assign the datatype from that
>>>>>>
>> (you can just
>>
>>>>>> copy the definition from XForms 1.1).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) It may be my mistake but instance('formData1')/ should be
>>>>>> without the trailing / e.g. just instance('formData1')
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) You might know it since checkbox.xhtml does not transform
>>>>>> probably but the transformation of a checkbox should be:
>>>>>> <xforms:select1 ref="zutat" appearance="full">
>>>>>> <xforms:label></xforms:label>
>>>>>> <xforms:item>
>>>>>> <xforms:label>Salami</xforms:label>
>>>>>> <xforms:value>salami</xforms:value>
>>>>>> </xforms:item>
>>>>>> ....
>>>>>> </xforms:select1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) in file_input.xml. This is the same as for 1) the xs
>>>>>>
>> prefix has
>>
>>>>>> to be declared. Another thing you could do was to include a
>>>>>> mediatype and a filename element under the upload
>>>>>>
>> element and bind
>>
>>>>>> they values to attributes on the upload instance node.
>>>>>>
>> E.g. making
>>
>>>>>> the upload look like:
>>>>>> <xforms:upload mediatype="text/*" style="width: 240px"
>>>>>>
>> ref="file">
>>
>>>>>> <xforms:label></xforms:label>
>>>>>> <xforms:mediatype ref="@mediatpype"/>
>>>>>> <xforms:filename ref="@filename"/> </xforms:upload>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and in the instance
>>>>>> <file mediatype="" filename="" xsi:type="xs:base64Binary"/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) In multiple_forms.xhtml there is a problem which is
>>>>>>
>> entirely my
>>
>>>>>> fault because I was fuzzy in my first mail. You should namespace
>>>>>> the transformed xhtml:form -> xforms:group with a model
>>>>>>
>> attribute.
>>
>>>>>> E.g. the transformed <xhtml:form> should look like <xforms:group
>>>>>> ref="instance('formData1')"
>>>>>> model="model1"/> and for the next <xforms:group
>>>>>> ref="instance('formData2')" model="model2"/> Sorry about
>>>>>>
>> that. The
>>
>>>>>> current version will not work since you are not allow to cross
>>>>>> reference instance between models in XForms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6) Very nice transformation in outgroup.xhtml. There is
>>>>>>
>> a choices
>>
>>>>>> element in XForms which will allow you to transforms <optgroup
>>>>>> label="Names starting with B"> into <xforms:choices>
>>>>>> <xforms:label>Names starting with B</xforms:label>
>>>>>> <xforms:item>
>>>>>> <xforms:label>Berta</xforms:label>
>>>>>> <xforms:value>Berta</xforms:value>
>>>>>> </xforms:item>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> </xforms:choices>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7) For select.xhtml I like Tom Waits ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8) I really like the reset trigger. It is a good detail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep up the good work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did my best to include all of your suggestions :) The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> new version
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> now transforms xhrml:label elements if they occur directly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> before an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> xforms control or have a "for" attribute.
>>>>>>> When there is a <td> parent I leave it as it is, since
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> otherwise it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> may wreck any table layouts.
>>>>>>> Attached is a new version of my stylesheet and some test cases.
>>>>>>> Any feedback is heartly welcome.
>>>>>>> Hope you enjoy it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all the best,
>>>>>>> Roman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>> Von: David Landwehr [mailto:david.landwehr@solidapp.com]
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2006 16:17
>>>>>>>> An: Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE)
>>>>>>>> Cc: www-forms@w3.org
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Stylesheet for Transforming HTML forms to XForms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Roman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really excellent and exciting work!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have some suggestions:
>>>>>>>> 1) the xhtml:form is kept in the resulting document after the
>>>>>>>> transformation. It would be great to remove the element
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and replace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it with a group. The group could have ref="/instance"
>>>>>>>> to remove the requirement for the child controls to have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> that part in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they refs.
>>>>>>>> 2) It would really be cool to create a model or instance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> for each
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> form in the document. That would require proper model
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> namespacing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because xhtml forms always are separated by its parent
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> form element,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that can simply be done using a model/ref with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> instance('') on the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> transforming of the xhtml:form element like xforms:group
>>>>>>>> ref="instance('ins1')"
>>>>>>>> model="model1".
>>>>>>>> 3) A nice feature would be to transform a xhtml:label like:
>>>>>>>> <xhtml:label for="ctrl1">Label</xhtml:label><xhtml:input
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> type="input"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> name="some" value="bb" id="ctrl1"/> to <xforms:input
>>>>>>>> ref="/instance/some">
>>>>>>>> <xforms:label>Label</xforms:label>
>>>>>>>> </xforms:input>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) For input/@type="file" it does not generate a instance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> element to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hold the value. It would be great if it did that and
>>>>>>>>
>> additional
>>
>>>>>>>> specified the type to be e.g. a base 64 encoding using
>>>>>>>> xsi:type="xsd:base64Binary".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you shared the html files you use to test with it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> would be much
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> easier to provide you with feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again really great work!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huditsch, Roman (LNG-VIE) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just tried to write an XSLT stylesheet for transforming
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> simple HTML
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> forms to their XForms equivalents. I hope that I have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> considered all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> controls mentioned by selfhtml and the "XForms for
>>>>>>>>>
>> HTML Authors"
>>
>>>>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>>>> I would be glad to get any input on it :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wbr,
>>>>>>>>> Roman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roman Huditsch
>>>>>>>>> IT and Electronic Publishing
>>>>>>>>> LexisNexis ARD Orac
>>>>>>>>> Marxergasse 25
>>>>>>>>> 1030 Vienna
>>>>>>>>> Austria
>>>>>>>>> ph: +43-1-534 52-1514
>>>>>>>>> f: +43-1-534 52-140
>>>>>>>>> e-mail roman.huditsch@lexisnexis.at www.lexisnexis.at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> David Landwehr (david.landwehr@solidapp.com) Chief
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Executive Officer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SolidApp
>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.solidapp.com
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>> David Landwehr (david.landwehr@solidapp.com) Chief Executive
>>>>>> Officer, SolidApp
>>>>>> Web: http://www.solidapp.com
>>>>>> Office: +45 48268212
>>>>>> Mobile: +45 24275518
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> David Landwehr (david.landwehr@solidapp.com) Chief
>>>>
>> Executive Officer,
>>
>>>> SolidApp
>>>> Web: http://www.solidapp.com
>>>> Office: +45 48268212
>>>> Mobile: +45 24275518
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------
>> David Landwehr (david.landwehr@solidapp.com) Chief Executive
>> Officer, SolidApp
>> Web: http://www.solidapp.com
>> Office: +45 48268212
>> Mobile: +45 24275518
>> --------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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