- From: Jonathan Kew <jonathan@jfkew.plus.com>
- Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:29:39 +0100
- To: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
- Cc: John Daggett <jdaggett@mozilla.com>, www-font <www-font@w3.org>
On 5 Aug 2009, at 02:18, Sylvain Galineau wrote: >> Others seem to view EOT-Lite as a stepping stone format that would be >> followed by a better .webfont/ZOT/something-else format. But another >> new format would need to offer a big marginal advantage to offset the >> disruption supporting yet another format would cause. > > I lean towards being one of them. What kind of specific > disruption(s) are we > Talking about though ? One concern I have is that if we all implement EOT-Lite (by whatever name) now, it will be more difficult for a new and better format to gain acceptance, and so we may end up with an inferior format in the long term for the sake of short-term gain. If we introduce a format such as .webfont/.zot/etc at this point, there's a strong incentive for everyone to get on board; this will be reduced if there's EOTL as an available, interoperable solution even if it is technically less optimal. I'm not convinced that the issue of backward compatibility with the legacy IE installed base is as valuable or crucial as some seem to think. For one thing, there are the rumored "quirks" in existing IE @font-face support, which may require custom CSS support anyway, in which case authors might as well be serving a separate format as well (i.e., EOT for legacy IE, new web fonts for others). At least in the case of IE6, which is said to be widely deployed among the slow-to- upgrade user base, the limitation of one font per family name is pretty damning. If we disregard the non-upgrading IE6 user base, on the grounds that sites wanting to support them will have to use custom workarounds anyway, we're left with the IE7/8 users. Yes, there are lots of them. But there are also lots of Firefox 3.0 and 3.5 users, for example, not to mention Safari, Konqueror, Opera, etc. All these users would need to upgrade in order to see EOTL fonts. I don't think it is reasonable to let the outcome be dictated by an assumption that "IE users can't be expected to upgrade in order to see standard linked fonts; users of other browsers can". Microsoft is just as capable as any other vendor of delivering an upgrade that adds support for a new font format, especially if it is a simple-to- implement format such as .zot or .webfont. It comes down to vendor priorities and resource allocation, and user choice. If MS chooses to be slow about delivering such an upgrade, or if users choose to be slow about adopting it, they'll be no worse off than today; they will still see fallback fonts. I don't think that is such a disastrous outcome that we should allow it to push us into standardizing on a less-optimal web font solution. JK
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