- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:50:28 -0500
- To: Dave Crossland <dave@lab6.com>
- Cc: www-font <www-font@w3.org>, Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Dave Crossland<dave@lab6.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I expect all foundries to start offering web font licenses within 6 months. > > Here's why: > > http://www.ascendercorp.com/pr/2009-07-15/ > > Ascender have just announced they will be licensing EOTs by the end of > the month. Awesome news! Once I came around, the EOT Lite proposal seemed like the realistically best solution for us authors. The important question now is, will the non-IE browsers implement this? Moz, Opera, Webkit folks? As well, will IE implement TTF linking now? IE folks? Finally, will everybody use same-origin restrictions on fonts? We need to standardize on this, and I think SO is a good idea. > I read on Ben Weiner's blog at > http://www.readingtype.org.uk/blog/2009/07/good-news-for-web-designers-acceptable.html > that other foundries will be licensing fonts for the web in both EOT > and in a corrupt TTF format. > > (TTF corruption works like this: The NAME table is malformed, so that > they will fail desktop OS validation and refuse to be installed, but > work in browsers since browsers set their family names from CSS > declarations. This is quite similar to John Daggett's "renaming" > proposal. The contractual agreement between foundies and web > publishers also requires the publishers to implement referrer checking > and CORS, by the sounds of it. These 3 things - CORS, referrer checks, > and broken NAME tables - seem to be the 'speed bump' to unauthorised > file sharing that foundries called for.) > > I have asked for clarification from Ascender about if they will > support such "broken TTFs" - > http://typophile.com/node/59489#comment-356418 I have no problem with buying malformed TTFs from foundries. > I agree with Ben that the foundies are "effectively [pulling] an > end-run around the discussion because it means that the dual-format > (TTF/OTF and EOT) question now has an answer ... you can expect to be > able to license TTF/OTF and EOT versions of many high-quality > commercial fonts very, very soon ... commercial font publishers will > fall over themselves to avoid being the last ones to make their > libraries available." > > To me, this totally undermines the initial rationale for forming a > Fonts WG, which was that foundries were not willing to license for the > web without a new web font format. Now that they are proven to be > willing, will the Font WG proposal be abandoned? > > I would think that would be a shame; Tal Leming's proposal seemed > promising. Personally, I preferred Tom Lord's because I buy his > reasoning about making a generic solution for all media types, but it > seems stuck at Rob O'C's critique. Will Tom Lord reply to Rob? I never thought that license expression in fonts was a solution to any actual problem we faced, so I won't shed a tear that Ascender (and hopefully other foundries now) decided to jump the gun and ignore that. > Also, I note that the foundries' TTF scheme assumes that browsers will > not apply the same validation checks as OSes do - perhaps some browser > developers can comment on if that assumption is valid? I'm not a browser developer, but I don't see any good reason to do that sort of validation on webfonts, for the reason listed by Ben. ~TJ
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