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Re: Questions about the :focus-visible heuristics

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 23:55:14 -0500
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Alice Boxhall <aboxhall@google.com>
Cc: Emilio Cobos Álvarez <emilio@crisal.io>, www-archive@w3.org
Message-ID: <a11a83cb-27bd-8cf3-14a3-b27a86db439e@inkedblade.net>
On 2/18/21 8:38 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 5:33 PM Alice Boxhall <aboxhall@google.com> wrote:
>> An <input> will always match :focus-visible when focused, because it takes text input.
> 
> Sure, but there were two rules that defined different outcomes there.
> I can tweak the text to make it clear that the "focus transfer" rule
> is subordinate to the preceding rules.
> 
>> It might be worth going through the WPT tests to get a feel for what behaviour is and isn't expected.
> 
> Hm, these aren't marked as optional, which implies that the heuristics
> aren't heuristic at all, and actually *are* required behavior. Is this
> the case? If so, then I need to fix up the 2119 language usage; Elika
> and I shifted the text today in the *opposite* direction, removing the
> 2119 words and explicitly marking it as an example of possible
> heuristics.

They should stay optional. User interfaces should be tweakable over time in 
response to user research and development; unless it's required for Web compat 
they shouldn't be baked into a spec.

~fantasai
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