Re: RETRACTION: ISSUE-98 canvas2d - Call for Change Proposals

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:

> Shelley Powers wrote:
>
>> Just a quick note, but the W3C closed status states that this issue is
>> resolved, and this issue is not.
>>
>
> All that closed means in this case is that this is not an appropriate use
> of the issue tracker at this time.  Another way of putting it is that it is
> that ISSUE-98 is out of order.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.
>
>
>  There were a couple of emails to the group. There are two splits. There's
>> been no resolution, and I'm not even sure what kind of behind the scenes
>> discussion has been happening. I don't consider this issue "resolved".
>>
>
> I am aware of the two documents that are referred to ISSUE-98.  I am aware
> of Ian's continued interest in authoring and participating in the continued
> development of canvas.  The other thing I do know is that neither Eliot nor
> Doug have submitted their document for consideration.  It is a doodle.  It
> is incomplete.
>
> What I am not aware of is either Eliot's or Doug's intent.
>
> Perhaps Ian's split meets their needs.  Perhaps they would be willing to
> co-edit a document with Ian.  Perhaps they wish to pursue a separate draft.
>  Perhaps they are still evaluating their options.  Perhaps their priorities
> have changed.  Perhaps somebody else wishes to pick up this ball and carry
> it forward.
>
> I don't know.  Nor do I care to speculate.  In fact, one thing I definitely
> do NOT want to do is to put either of them, or anybody who hasn't
> volunteered and made a commitment, on the spot.
>
> Hence, I support the status of CLOSED for ISSUE-98.
>
>
>  If you want to mark the issue as invalid, I suppose there's little I can
>> do. But what I'd rather have is a path forward on this.
>>
>
> There are paths forward.  And they all start with identifying specific
> deficiencies, and expressing them in terms of bug reports.  Issue-98 is
> completely lacking in such.
>
>  Shelley
>>
>
> - Sam Ruby
>


I should thank you for not dismissing my concerns out of hand.

I believe that both Doug[1] and Eliot did provide their intentions in the
email discussion related to this item, and even proposed paths forward, as
well as asking for direction from the HTML WG.

If no action does occur on this issue before March, then yes, I will pursue
whatever I'm allowed to pursue, so that this item doesn't continue in the
non-procedural limbo it exists in now.

Shelley

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/0442.html
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/0461.html







>
>  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:
>> Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    My mistake.  ISSUE-98 is closed and I meant to issue a Call for
>>    ISSUE-96.
>>
>>
>>    /paulc
>>
>>
>>    Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>>
>>    17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>>
>>    Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>
>>
>>    *From:* public-html-request@w3.org
>>    <mailto:public-html-request@w3.org>
>>    [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org
>>    <mailto:public-html-request@w3.org>] *On Behalf Of *Paul Cotton
>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:58 PM
>>    *To:* public-html@w3.org <mailto:public-html@w3.org>
>>
>>    *Cc:* Shelley Powers
>>    *Subject:* ISSUE-98 canvas2d - Call for Change Proposals
>>
>>
>>    "Two Canvas API Split Proposals"
>>
>>
>>    ISSUE-98 was raised after the decision policy was put into effect, so
>> at this time the chairs would like to solicit volunteers to write Change
>> Proposals for this issue.
>>
>>
>>    http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/98
>>
>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html#escalation
>>
>>
>>    Shelley Powers has offered to draft a change proposal for ISSUE-98 by
>> March 31, 2010.
>>
>>
>>    If no Change Proposals are written by March 31, 2010 this issue will be
>> closed without prejudice.
>>
>>
>>    /paulc
>>
>>
>>    Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>>
>>    17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>>
>>    Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>
>>
>>
>>
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