- From: Martin Hepp (UniBW) <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:33:37 +0200
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- CC: Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>, Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>, Toby Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Brian Suda <brian.suda@gmail.com>, www-archive@w3.org
- Message-ID: <4A682E71.3040302@ebusiness-unibw.org>
I personally think that alignment with the non-RDF vcard is only one
issue among others, as long as it is straightforward to populate the
vcard-RDF structures from vCards and vice versa.
What we really need is a consensual, practical schema for 90% of the
contact data in web resources.
Martin
Dan Brickley wrote:
> On 23/7/09 11:07, Peter Mika wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> peter - would you share those publicly, please?
>>
>> Sure, here is my cost/benefit analysis on tel as a resource:
>>
>>
>> Benefits:
>>
>> -- Slightly easier data integration, e.g. using SPARQL queries. However,
>> how many people are doing data integration using SPARQL alone?
>> -- We would like to be compatible with the ontology... (or should the
>> ontology be changed?)
>>
>> Costs:
>>
>> -- Gives the illusion of a resource that you can dereference. Tom Heath
>> these days is on the road with an excellent Linked Data presentation
>> that explicitly advises against using non-http URIs.
>> -- There is not much anyone would ever want to say about a phone number,
>> which would be the most common reason for making something a resource.
>> -- Sites owner are expected to read an RFC on how to write down a
>> telephone number, and then figure out the transformation from their
>> internal representation to the scheme. Not likely to happen...
>> -- Search engines index URIs differently than literals or not at all. In
>> this case, this behaves as a literal in that I want it to be indexed.
>
> Also consider recent changes to vCard underway at IETF: see
> http://danbri.org/words/2008/06/25/348 for a summary.
>
> Latest seems to be
> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-vcarddav-vcardrev-08.txt
>
> """7.4. Communications Properties
>
> These properties are concerned with information associated with the
> way communications with the object the vCard represents are carried
> out.
>
> 7.4.1. TEL
>
> Purpose: To specify the telephone number for telephony communication
> with the object the vCard represents.
>
> Value type: A single URI value. It is expected that the URI scheme
> will be "tel", as specified in [RFC3966], but other schemes MAY be
> used.
> """
>
> Mention is also made of the mailto: URI scheme (surely this is still
> ok to use, privacy issues aside), and a "geo" URI scheme
> [I-D.mayrhofer-geo-uri] that I don't know much about.
>
> If the goal of this vocabulary is to reflect the IETF vCard vocab,
> keeping close to trends in vCard-land might be prudent...
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
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