- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:48:17 -0600
- To: www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>, olivier Thereaux <ot@w3.org>, Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
copy of a comment I sent... http://www.webmasterworld.com/html/3809041.htm#msg3811325 http://www.webmasterworld.com/profilev4.cgi?action=view&member=DanC encyclo, this donation drive is an effort to fund the validator and staff it adequately. I started the validator as a developer tool for people working on HTML specifications, but people increasingly rely on it in developing web content; they expect it to "just work" and they expect friendly tech support and so on, not just "here's the source; patches welcome!" This is a somewhat different service than what our members pay their fees to get, so we're looking for funding directly from the community that relies on it (though there is some overlap). I'd like to know more about the "deficiencies in terms of accountability" that you see. I think money has a lot less influence than you might think. It's much more a case of "he who does the work makes the rules." W3C welcomes both volunteers and people who do this stuff as their day job. Consider the W3C patent policy. When W3C started a patent policy working group, naturally big companies with billions of dollars in annual patent license revenue joined the working group. But so did the FSF. Early drafts of the patent policy weren't as strongly Royalty-Free as many of us liked, but like all other W3C working groups, that group was obliged to publish early and often and to take into account public feedback. We got over 2000 comments (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-patentpolicy-comment/2001Oct/thread.html ) and we read every single one. And today the W3C patent policy is more supportive of independent open source developers than any other standards development organization's policy. How do you think W3C could improve in accountability? Who do you think does it better? I'm confident ISO is no friend of independent web developers. W3C, OASIS, and IETF are similar enough that each is better and worse than the others in some ways; we tend to borrow the best from each other; there's more variation between groups in each of those organizations than there is between the organizations themselves. I like to watch the wikipedia governance discussions; that's a fascinating organization. I'm not sure donations are the best way to fund the validator, but there's no better way to find out than to try it, right? I'm particularly interested to connect validator development back to the specification development process. For too long, there has been a chicken-and-egg situation: "we can't use new attributes because the validator doesn't support them" vs "we can't add new attributes to the validator because the validator team only has bandwidth to deal with finished Recommendations, and those new attributes aren't standard yet." I think the whole thing works best when there's an appropriate amount of feedback between the community using the validator and the Working Group developing the specifications. If people don't trust W3C to be responsive, of course they'll take their time, money, and effort elsewhere. I'd like to think that whatever W3C did to lose your trust has mostly been fixed or is in the process of being fixed. If you don't think so, I'd like to hear more. -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ gpg D3C2 887B 0F92 6005 C541 0875 0F91 96DE 6E52 C29E
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