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Re: [whatwg] Creative Commons Rights Expression Language

From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:38:10 +0300
Cc: "Bonner, Matt" <matt.bonner@hp.com>, Kristof Zelechovski <giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl>, "'Julian Reschke'" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "'Ian Hickson'" <ian@hixie.ch>, "'Dan Brickley'" <danbri@danbri.org>, "'Tab Atkins Jr.'" <jackalmage@gmail.com>, "www-archive@w3.org" <www-archive@w3.org>
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To: Ben Adida <ben@adida.net>

On Aug 23, 2008, at 03:28, Ben Adida wrote:

> Bonner, Matt wrote:
>>> Not at all what we're doing. A lot of the data will be in HTML to
>>> begin with.
>> Such as?
> cc:attributionName, cc:attributionURL, dc:title, dc:type,  
> dc:date, ....

If DRY is what you are aiming for, you should use HTML <title> instead  
of dc:title and HTTP Content-Type instead of dc:type when talking  
about the HTML document itself. (I think linked resources should talk  
for themselves.)

In order to talk about the HTML document itself, you could register http://creativecommons.org/ns#attributionName 
  and http://creativecommons.org/ns#attributionURL as a <meta> name  
and a <link> rel respectively. (That wouldn't be DRY though.) You  
could also define that if those are absent, http://creativecommons.org/ns#attributionName 
  defaults to <meta name=author> and http://creativecommons.org/ns#attributionURL 
  to the URL of the document.

The (original) definition of dc:date is so bad that it's useless.  
(It's confusing a datatype with a field identifier.)

>> Why would the average user understand better how to put ccREL data in
>> HTML pages than elsewhere?
> Because we hand them a chunk of HTML they can copy-and-paste into  
> their
> HTML page, blog post, MySpace page, etc.. Much easier than anything I
> know of for media files.

That seems like you are proposing that humans (via text editor) deal  
with the syntax instead of tools hiding it all.

Henri Sivonen
Received on Saturday, 23 August 2008 13:39:03 UTC

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