- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:58:11 +0000
- To: www-archive@w3.org, Phil Archer <parcher@icra.org>, "Carroll, Jeremy John" <jeremy.carroll@hp.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, "Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)" <skw@hp.com>
- CC: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Bijan Parsia <bparsia@cs.man.ac.uk>
Cc-ing ivan and bijan since they seem interested. I am going to start a variety of threads on www-archive, with the intent that we pick the threads up on the tuesday meeting. I take it that the theme of the discussion is trying to evaluate powder design options to get appropriate balance between 'correctness' with respect to the more mathematical bits of the SW Recs (OWL and RDF), and usability by the intended user base. The ideal outcome would be one where small amounts of attention to detail, make little to no impact on usability, but enhance 'correctness' and hence interoperability with off-the-shelf SW tools. Poor outcomes would be ones in which tension between the two objectives (correctness and usability) become conflict; and either POWDER users feel that usability is sacrificed for ill-defined and elitist logical goals, or the SW specs, at least their logical parts, are simply ignored because they are unhelpful. I'll try and start these threads: - reification, or what? I dislike reification, and will argue against it, and in favour of the design in the powder-dr WD, with minor mods. - resource descriptions, as a semantic extension?? RDF semantics makes no provision for examining the IRIs used for resources. This is not addressed by OWL 1.0 or OWL 1.1. This is fundamental to POWDER; and should, in my view, be addressed by formally creating a suitable semantic extension. - resource descriptions and monotonicity I got a bad non-monotonic feeling while reading the powder-grouping WD; interestingly it was while reading bits that had clearly been written with the issue in mind :( - the subclass relationship I take the reified rdfs:subClassOf triple in the example that has circulated in earlier e-mail to be a response to a request to be more formal, or more OWL like, in response to the powder-dr WD. However, the design in the WD looks more user-friendly to me, if it could be made to work ... - tools and motivations Why o why are we bothered? Jeremy
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